• The Picard Maneuver@lemmy.worldOP
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      Seriously. I was at the right age to be much more politically intense back then and absolutely despised Bush.

      Now, I almost feel bad about it after witnessing the last 20 years of politics.

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          Yeah, I still think the criticisms of Bush were valid, but I’m so much more cool-headed as a person now that the difference in my response feels incongruent. Political news doesn’t take an emotional toll on me like it used to, even though I objectively disagree with modern politicians more.

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            I think you’re wrong that it doesn’t take an emotional toll on you like before. However, it’s such a toll that you just have to start ignoring it. Back then it felt useful to constantly pay attention. Now it’s all so bad that if you paid attention to all of it you’d go insane, so we have to be more relaxed and only let the big things get to us.

            • The Picard Maneuver@lemmy.worldOP
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              It could be a bit of both, but in general I recognized after a certain point that the only one affected by my stress level is me, not the thing in the news. I’d also credit having a career where you have to get really good at controlling what you let affect you.

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              Interesting. Instead of listening to this person explain their experiences, you’ve decided they are wrong about how they feel.

              Are you trying to express how you are experiencing these different times?

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                Yeah, I did listen to them. As you notice from me saying “I think…” at the start of my comment, I’m trying to give my perspective. Is that not allowed?

                It’s very common, especially right now, for people to care so much that it’s overwhelming. I can’t know that’s happening to them (hence, “I think…”), but usually people don’t just stop giving a shit. They just figure out that they need a filter.

                Also, yes. It’s how I’m experiencing it.

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      I was telling my Zillennial partner about Bush this morning. About the extraordinary renditions. About kidnapping and torturing a fellow Canadian citizen for no fucking reason. About prosecuting child soldiers and holding them with adult mercenaries for a decade or more. About sanctioned torture, unsanctioned mass abuses, and complete abandonment of due process. And “y’all” are shocked today to find you live in a fascist country. Like, how the fuck are you surprised.

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        They’re not surprised. Lots of Americans wanted this. Stupid as fuck population.

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      That’s called “The Memory Hole”.

      We take all the illegality and corruption and horrific violence and torture and wars and media manipulation/intimidation and petty dictator shit and stuff it down the Memory Hole. Then we get to pretend

      NSFW

      This shit

      Wasn’t such a big deal after all.

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        Yeah but at least it was a scandal. That asshole, and a bunch of others, went to jail, even if it wasn’t long enough. If it happened today they’d either never be charged or pardoned and that asshole would be the Secretary of Defense.

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        America has been the bad guys for close to a century at this point the difference maker is their marketing game was on point.

        Now? They no longer with Saatchi and Saatchi lol

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          the only pass they get is that at least they fought the nazis one time. even though they now claim all the credit, and took them forever to join the fight, and had a strong faction that wanted to join the nazis, and it was American racism that inspired nazism, and nazis are now cool in America…

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        Jesus Christ.

        I very well remember seeing the censored version of that image… this is the first time I’ve seen it uncensored.

        I’ve seen uncensored pics from the highway of death, other graphic shit that made it onto the early days of liveleak… but there ya go, memory hole in action.

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    that is a constant in Dragon Ball.

    enemies get defeated, surpasseda and then they become entourage

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      It was hilarious watching Dragon Ball after growing up on Dragon Ball Z. When Yamcha shows up and is a threat I lost it.

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      The list of opponents Goku agrees need to be eliminated is much shorter than the list of ones he wants to fight again when they are stronger. Despite most of them after the start of DBZ being existential threats.

      Though he goes back and forth on Frieza lol.

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        Frankly speaking Frieza has somewhat mellowed out, probably the end result of being killed and sent to hell a couple times. He went from let’s genocide the filthy monkeys to let’s torture the filthy monkeys, which is progress I guess.

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          I’m not sure if the anime will ever get there, but if you read the manga past the end of Super (which ends on the Tournament of Destruction saga last I checked, like the one with Jiren, and then the Brolly movie), there’s more Frieza development. Btw I suggest reading even the parts at the start; it’s more of a companion piece than the retelling of the exact same story on a different medium. There is overlap between them, of course, but also a bunch of not overlap. Like Zamasu is more fleshed out and his whole path makes more sense in the manga.

          Anime has more fighting, manga has more story telling.

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      I’m in the cell saga of dbz. Do those dragonball goons, the girl and the fox and the little blue baby tyrant ever come back?

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      Sort of, except he was probably the smartest of the lot by cloning himself, and then one of them got smart enough to off all the other clones. By himself he was manageable. He had the luck or foresight to cause problems when other problems granted the opportunistic window.

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        That too, but also, he sort of downgraded the egoistic Goa’ulds seeking to be Gods to like… somewhat grandiose villains who know they’re villains and don’t delude themselves about being gods. Also, he then joined with SG1 to fight the… the… ohmygod. I need to either lower the amount of Ambien I take or rewatch SG1. The baddies from the other galaxy. I won’t google it I’m gonna let that fester until I remember it.

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    Jesse and James were always effective, they just suck at villainy. They are good at dressing up, making rube-goldberg devices, and many other things, they just aren’t evil enough to elevate that potential. If they were, Giovanni would be sleeping with the magi-karp, and Ash would be eaten by their Arbok.

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    I heard that something like this happened in an old superman villain. It took one season to defeat him. But later they defeat two by throwing a table at them

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    and then you have the venture bros, where the monarch starts off as goofy and ineffectual but becomes more menacing as the series goes on and the stakes get higher

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      I didn’t realise that “Venture Bros” was a TV series and thought you were talking about Silicon Valley tech bros and venture capitalists and was like “sounds about right”.

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      If anyone is a victim of “Villain Decay” in the Venture Bros its Brock Sampson. The Swedish Murder Machine is practically a teddy bear by the final arc.

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      They did fucking stellar work with the character growth. I normally hate the “you need to give it a couple seasons” kind of thing, but Venture Bros did so well to have a moment where you feel the tone start to change, and somehow, the goofier start ends up working in the shows favor.

      I will never look at a Homies the same way again.

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      That’s three times Venture Bros have come up for me this week, guess that means its time for another re-watch. :logs into Nightreign as The Bat:

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        Don’t forget the movie between seasons Uhh… 4 and 5 I think? I didn’t know it existed and was very confused.

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          Isn’t there just the one movie, which is the series finale? Unless you’re talking about one of the holiday specials.

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        My brother recommended Venture Bros. to me since I like the recent Harley Quinn series. I need to start watching it sometime.

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          Oh, its easily one of my top 10 all time TV shows, personally. It’s smartly written from start to finish. Absolutely worth your time.

          Upon a moment more thought, I’d reckon it may sit as high as #3 or 4. It’s damn near perfect.

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            I haven’t even watched the full thing but only caught episodes here and there and can tell it’s top tier just based on those. I need to give it a real watch so I can appreciate how it all comes together.

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          As mentioned elsewhere, the first season or two is kinda rough animation-wise, but it’s truly a masterpiece. If you’re an 80s/90s kid, it’s even better because they lampoon a lot from that era, specifically (but abstractly) Johnny quest.

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      Only to rivals, though. His plots against Rusty stayed pretty slapstick and harmless. They even worked together in a late season.

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    This same process is why u stop watching cop/detective dramas as soon as a protagonist gets kidnapped.

    1. This happens 100% of the time, usually 3 season in
    2. You know they’ve gone from procedural to full on drama at this point
    3. The quality always drops off a cliff here
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        Just about nothing but another speedster is. The dude can think and move faster that the speed of light, he spent an entire episode in the split second it took for a nuke to go off. The fact that he’s constantly getting his ass kicked is a flaw of the character more than the writing IMO (though don’t get me wrong, the writing was also bad).

        I loved in the first season and then again whenever Zoom happened where you’d get him saying at the end of the intro “My name is Barry Allen, and I’m the fastest man alive”, immediately followed up with “Previously on The Flash: (highlight of him being outrun and beaten up by another guy)”

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          Nah the problem with the CW Flash is the writing, other shows and continuities have done the flash well. For example Wally West in the old animated universe is great, the thing is though he is also on the weaker end. The problem that the CW caused for themselves is that they gave Barry too much power and a team that was too large too early.

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    I see this in politics and everyday acquaintances all the time. When the turf you’ve been fighting over gets attacked by a mutual significant foe, some hostilities get paused.