That girl would not be faulted for being inactive in bed, I can tell you that.

To begin with people were annoyed with every single answer beginning with “as a large language model, I don’t have thoughts or feelings, but…” so now some have overcorrected too much, I guess.

Oh yes I’m not even remotely implying you should stop resisting.

I’m just saying that a person by themselves can do very little.

Should write and publish some sort of manual on how to behave in case of a raid like that. I’m sure there are dozens but if everyone had the same one and everyone was on the same page, linking arms, dousing tear gas canisters with water and baking soda, having umbrellas (to shield from mace), etc etc.

But yeah sounds like surströmming is made for this job.

Mad Cook - Surströmming

Please go check with empirical testing and report back.

Idk man, I’ve seen quite a few people arguing against these cunts and they don’t really seem to care that what they’re doing is completely illegal and inhumane.

So aside from violently resisting a literal gang of armed thugs in fighting gear, what the fuck are you gonna do if you can’t run away?

And I don’t really see any court accepting some John Wick type of dude blowing heads off hundreds of ICE agents either, even if they are illegally kidnapping people.

I can only wish

Not exactly goats, but kinda.

The same thing applies to roe deer in most of Europe. It has to be culled due to a lack of natural predators. They would eat everything, ruin the ecology and then be on the roads increasing crashes and human deaths.

And can’t really introduce wolf populations into populated European zones which haven’t had proper predators for ages.

I’m against industrial meat farms, but not eating meat as a concept. There’s just no need for the type of animal torturing powerfarming that is so common in, like, the US. (Watch Clarkson’s farm for instance to see British farming.)

You’re defending his argument, while refusing to answer my very simple “why would you drive a scooter at 100% speed all the time when you do that with literally no other vehicle, be it a car or a push bike?”

So yeah. Stop being a “churlish dolt”

Motorcycles have terrible brakes to begin with.

What are you on about?

https://youtu.be/QCHsNoBEdrM

(screenshot from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDbWZiaUeDY)

Yeah. You can take them on a course and you can drive them at top speed.

That wasn’t the question. The question was how often do you actually use the top speed on an average vehicle? The answer is “practically never”.

Yet you’re pretending like the same doesn’t apply for scooters and people would be blazing 100mph all the time if the scooter has a top speed of 100mph.

You’re perfectly fine having several ton weighing machines which can do like 120-300mph on the roads and trust that people will behave with them, but something that’s 40 times lighter and has at most double the top speed somehow can’t be driven responsibly?

“Don’t be a dolt.”

If you say “they’re not even remotely comparable”, then you haven’t driven both. Or you’ve driven like one type of each, which makes you unable to compare them, it doesn’t make them incomparable.

I took my 04 GTO to 150 on an open public road in my younger days

You mean you once drove it at that speed for a very short time and then returned back to safe and rational speeds. Meaning that you’ve barely once even come close to driving a car as fast as it goes. Yet you’re somehow acting as if these scooters don’t have throttles, but an on/off setting and you MUST go 100mph at ALL times.

$450

Doesn’t really tell much. If you bought it from some store nearby, it might be an overpriced kids toy. If you bought it from China, it could be a relatively ok, on the cheaper side though. Does it even have dual suspension? Swingarm suspension?

I’m talking something along these lines:

That’s around 1k. But again, it’s much safer than any of the minibikes I drove in the 90’s and as long as you dress for the slide and not the ride, and with proper infrastructure and regulation, I don’t see the issue. If you think it’s genuinely just about safety, then honestly some of the backseats on bikes with like 200hp are far more dangerous. Like a tiny little bench which is practically curved and made of some slippery faux-leather, and you’re not the driver yourself? Perhaps I have trust-issues and that’s where that comes from, but that feels very unsafe to me in comparison to driving a scooter that can go 100mph. My fucking 125cc bike could go 100mph (it genuinely did, got it to 165km/h), and the rear suspension was completely blown, it was just the spring, So every now and then, on curves, it would “kick out” if I went to the curve too hard. One time with my girlfriend on the backseat, while I was passing someone, in a corner, and the corner had a little dip in the middle of it just as I’m balancing the countersteering exactly because I’m aware of the suspension. And in the dip, it kicks out like a mule at the passing speed. A little bit of poo almost came out. Not for myself, but I was afraid I had just killed my girlfriend. Luckily I didn’t. 'Twasn’t the only time I seriously endangered someone’s life on that bike btw. Oh and you can still see an image of that specific fucking motorcycle, which I find awesome.

At least for me, it’s the first result when you image search “Suzuki RGF”. I know it’s my former bike because those are custom colours.

But yeah, check these:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVgwrvtUC44

See? I’ve driven one those on a shitty sand road. They go 50-120km/h. They have no suspension. A quality scooter with a long board and good suspension FAR outperforms anything like that or any of the minibikes which are completely legal, and larger in mass, just like I said.

Comparing those to a double-motored dual-suspended and sizeable board is a bad comparison. The scooter is much safer and easier to handle. Of course a scooter is unsafe compared to sitting in a brand new car cushioned with airbags, but, there’s also a price difference of several tens of thousands of dollars.

Ah yes, you get to say that all your cars are completely unaffected by anything, but every single scooter is a horrible deathtrap.

Again, you clearly have not driven scooters, except perhaps some of those city rentals. They’re comparable to buses, but get treated even worse.

Again, the better quality scooters have significantly better suspension and riding qualities than my Suzuki PV ever did. Suzuki PV’s also have smaller wheels. And when I was 15, people were tuning those so they went up to 80-120km/h. 45 was the legal limit, a stock PV would go about 50, and with tiny tuning you could get it to go 60 easily, and 75-80 somewhat easily. The brakes on those were horrible in comparison to the 160mm disc brakes on these new scoots. Swingarm suspension, grippy board.

As long as you dress properly for those speeds, there’s really not a huge difference to a motorcycle. I would do 100mph on salt flats, and I don’t think I’d need that much even. I know several places where I know the bumps in the road well enough that I could try taking one 100mph if I had some reason to. But driving them around at about 50km/h seems to be the more reasonable solution, because otherwise you’re gonna start needing an actual motorcycling jacket in case of a bad fall. Sub 50km/h speeds (30mph) you can still do with a bicycle helmet while being relatively safe. But in the city you need to take that down, unless you’re driving among the cars, and that’s generally frowned upon a bit, or if not frowned upon, I wouldn’t like the cops to see me doing it because a vehicle capable of doing that is illegal and I’d have to pay for the avoided insurance and whatnot. Which is acceptable, because if the regulation sucks, they can be really dangerous.

The worst thing about my best powerful Chinese scoot was simply the subpar quality of the materials on some parts, but I quickly recognised it and for instance changed all the Chinese bolts in my brakes to Finnish ones.

But again, for like the umpteenth time, the maximum velocity a vehicle can do isn’t the only speed you can drive it at. When is the last time you drove your Jeep or your Miata as fast as they go? You drive the Miata around at a 140mph? I would never drive an old Miata 140 mph, even on the Bonneville salt flats.

I don’t feel like you’ve driven lots of scooters, especially the better ones.

I can easily go 50km/h on a sandy and slightly bumpy road. Honestly the handling, traction and suspension is better than in my moped when I was 15. It had more mass and less power and way worse brakes.

Some of the scoots are flimsy af, yeah. But some of them are sturdy with good suspension. You get what you pay for, really.

Comparing a personal transport vehicle meant for the city to a car that literally started as a military vehicle. Great argument, not strawmanny at all.

Nukes really didn’t much affect military meta or combat though.

Just the willingness to engage in it.

The average soldier doesn’t really need to worry about nukes, but they do need to worry about drones.

That probably depends on how fast you ride it and how skilled the rider is and what ground you’re riding it on.

Well breaking power is proportional to mass, and seeing as the vehicle weighs perhaps quarter at most of a motorcycle (~50kg, which is on the higher end, but would be along the lines of the weight of these faster scoots, against ~200kg), it would depend a lot more on your personal mass.

It’s not going to be a problem to stop the scooter, but if you’re on the heavier side and have to lean on the bars and put your own weight on it, it’s going to affect the breaking power. A 50kg kid will have a much easier time stopping than a 120kg unit of a man.

True enough, but I think you’d be surprised at how agile and stable some of those larger scoots are.

I had one with like 8" wheels and a seat and I was fucking terrified to drive the thing even when it went like 25-30km/h, especially on slightly cracked asphalt. On the opposite hand, I also had one with much larger tires, like 10-12", and I had absolutely no fear riding it some 60km/h, even on a sandy road. I’d of course slow down for corners and whatnot, but in general.

Scoots achieve much of the suspension but having it be much more diagonal than in bikes. In streetbikes, the suspension is almost vertical, whereas in a lot of the larger scoots, it’s like at a 45 degree angle or more, to achieve suspension length without undue addition of height to the stepping board.

But agai, the point really is that cars can go much faster than they’re usually used at, and I’m sure people would fucking hate having cars which had the max speed of like 85 mph.

In Finnish you would say “kolari”, which is sort of “kolahdus” as in “a clunk” / “crash” with a diminutive at the end.

So like, “clunkito”, or “crashito.”

Even when it’s a big one. Although then you tend to veer into territory where you’d describe it as an “unfortunation”, if it’s sever enough. (Onnettomuus,)

Well, 100mph is really pushing it, sure, but honestly, the brakes are really fucking good and the mass is low. I’ve driven loads of motorcycles and these scooters, and whilst some or them are insanely hazardous, some of them are sturdy, well balanced and have brakes equal to motorcycles.

So as long as you protect yourself, have a helmet, I really don’t see a massive difference to motorcycles.