What the actual F. Are these people real?
The right is foaming at the mouthh with hate. They are so deadest on hating groups that they’re defending pedophilia (something that harms children) because they want to protect children.
They don’t want to protect anyone. They want to own their children.
She’s right about one thing. This shit was prolific back in the sixties, seventies and eighties. Operation Yewtree blew the lid on just how rife paedophilia was amongst celebrities and how the (British) establishment had been covering it up for decades.
The Epstein files should have been a similar watershed moment for the US, but unfortunately some very powerful people are on that list.
Exactly. I didn’t even hear the word “paedophile” until 2000 when Sarah Payne was murdered.
In school in the 90s there were always 13 and 14 year old girls with older boyfriends, like we’re talking 19 or 20 with cars and they could buy them cigarettes and booze.
We never really thought much of it.
They had very much made this shit normal, and I’m glad we now don’t.
Which schools did you go to? I never heard of this. Maybe im a little younger and that’s it. Maybe it’s an England/USA thing. I was 16 in 2000.
Also the shift of the acceptable age range of a romeo/Juliette situation is a little different from a bunch of 40+ yo rich guys shipping some tweens to a remote island for any reason.
I remember in school in the 2000s 13 and 14 year old with 19 or 20 year old boyfriends. I bet many still do today but I don’t hang out with 13 or 14 year olds at my age to know of the few that do.
In Canada the age of consent was 14 for a long time. There reason was they didn’t want to make kids out as pedophiles like America does. So now we have a more complicated consent system that protects the kids from being taken advantage of by people way older but allows kids to do what they have been doing for centuries.
Women shouldn’t be having babies until around 25.
People are having kids before that.
that’s a very strange phrasing.
do you mean “people shouldn’t be having kids until they’re mature and comfortable financially” ?
You do realize that there are other reasons to fuck besides to have kids?
you do realize your comment doesn’t make sense in this thread ?
That’s when their brain development slows and their body hormones regulate for healthy child birth
I was going to make a comment that it depends on location, but then I pulled up the state for Nicaragua and even over there women are only giving birth in any significant numbers after 16-17. So yea maybe not significantly. Dude’s weird
Age of consent is 18 in Iraq. There was a movement to lower it recently and it got shut down hard.
And these fucking people try to justify 14 in US.
Azealia Banks is a woman: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azealia_Banks
But I agree she is weird.
I’m a dude. He’s a dude. She’s a dude. We’re all dudes, hey.
Who loves orange soda?
“Dude” can refer to women too: https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/282694/is-dude-becoming-gender-neutral
Wow, what a fucking loser creep. Stay away from all children please.
She hasn’t been popular in years. I don’t think anybody wants to go near her.
And so she doesn’t have a problem with him lying about it for the votes…
This person is high on stupid.
Wasn’t he doing this in the 90s?
those were the times
I hope he feels the same about TSA pegging. Saying this in that context got him on a watchlist.
When you try to suggest that something is normal based upon your own experience, but everyone just looks at you with concern and pity in their eyes.
Exactly. It’s a trauma response. Sweeping it under the rug. My parents beat me when I was a child and I turned out fine.
Like, yes girl, I was absolutely raped at 14 too, and we both need therapy!
As an old guy I can say this is true. It was no big deal back then as people matured more quickly. My wife was already raising her younger brothers by that age. Cooking dinners, cleaning the barns, looking after things for a week while they traveled. People now don’t seem to mature until they are in their twenties. If ever.
Myself and many others were doing those things when we were 14 too. It doesn’t mean we should have been fucking grown adults. Those adults would have been taking advantage of us. It was the same back in your day. The dudes getting with teenagers by buying them alcohol and cigarettes were creeps. Regardless of how “accepted” it was back then.
You need to have your hard drive raided
Lol…I never said it was good. I said it was accepted far more then
I have no idea if you’re trolling but god I hope you are
Look at all the famous groupies back then. Look at the commercials with Brooke Shields. Nobody got upset. Great Granny got married even earlier. Times do indeed change
There was quite a lot of pearl-clutching over Brooke Shields at the time.
One of my grannies got married at 16. She was a miserable woman who hated every day she was alive, yet lived into her 80s. Conclude what you like from that anecdote: I have no idea if she was like that due to early marriage, or if she had other reasons to be hateful and bitter.
The problem with your previous comment is not about you stating it happened, it’s the justification you came up with.
Wacky cunt.
Growing up in a state where the legal age was 18, we heard “16’ll get you 20” back in the 70s and 80s.
So no idea where this nonsense about the 90s started.
Prolly she grew up in the 90’s, fucking older men, and only later has had people go “oh that doesn’t sound healthy” and presumes that there just was no judgement at all from anyone when she was actually doing it, just because she didn’t witness any personally.
Presumably.
I’m wondering if her grandmother, who had her first child when she was 12, was happy about it. Never hoped for change. Was not embracing social change when it happend. Like people don’t regret some of their choices when they were teens.
That math doesn’t hold up at all unless azalea is like pushing 70 or something. Maybe her mom had her at like 45? I’m 40 and my grandparents weren’t even born until the late 30s. And that’s without child pregnancies.
I didn’t even think about it. I’m 45, my mom had me at 30, my grandfather was old enough to fight in WW2 and he was barely old enough to fight in the war so my grandmother wouldn’t have been 12 in the 1920s. Yeah, the math makes no sense.
Just looked it up, she’s 34. So even if her mom was the youngest child of her grandma, she would had to have been 60+ when she had her.
I think the math is fine?
2025 - 1927 = 98 (years since grandma was born)
98 - 34 = 74 (years between grandma’s birth and OP’s)
74 / 2 = 37 (average age of grandma and OP’s parent when OP’s line was born)
Note that OP’s parent could be her father (assuming the research didn’t reveal it was her mother), which means that one generation might not need to avoid menopause age. Grandma could have had OP’s father at 27, and then father could have had her with a 27 year old (when he was 47) and it would all work out. Hell, even at the extreme, gma has father at 12, then father has OP at 62 with someone of any age.
Not saying it’s right; 12 year olds should be playing anything other than baby factory and housemaid to some old fuck. But the math seems fine to me.
Saying it that way seems more reasonable, but still rather far fetched. Maybe she meant great grandma?
Agreed. But I doubt it was much of a choice for her in the 1920s which makes it so much worse. Does she really want to go back to those times?
Simply because it was the norm it doesn’t mean it’s right. Pederasty was definitely a thing, but a Jewish historian who lived in the Roman era said the children clearly do not like it. And grim as it will sound, there are plenty of children in South East Asia abused by Western sexpats. You can definitely see how distraught the children are while the pedophile walks proudly with his chest high.
a Jewish historian who lived in the Roman era said the children clearly do not like it.
Do you happen to have the actual quote or a link to the whole thing? Id quite like to read this
I could not find it but i read it in Reddit AskHistorians many years ago. I am afraid to search further as I could get flagged 😂 Fwiw, if I remember correctly, I think the name of the Jewish historian is Josephus. But the only reference from the Internet I could find about him and his comment on pederasty/pedophilia is from here https://voice.dts.edu/review/philo-josephus-and-the-testaments-on-sexuality-attitudes-towards-sexuality-in-the-writings-of-philo-and-josephus-and-in-the-testaments-of-the-twelve-patriarchs/
Thanks!
I may have been a little kid in the '80s, but I don’t remember Jr High being an acceptable part of the general dating pool. I also don’t remember any major changes in the '90s to how acceptable relationships between adults and teenagers were.
