• cm0002@lemmy.world
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        4 months ago

        IMO it’s unlikely, from the day you “swear in”, throughout all of boot camp and at regular trainings after its beat into you that you serve the constitution and that you can and SHOULD disregard an illegal order and what constitutes an illegal order AND an illegal order from the Commander in chief especially is still an illegal order and should be dealt with accordingly

        And let me tell you, there’s far far FAR more enlisted just waiting for an illegal order to come through so they can finally tell an officer to go fuck themselves

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          The issue is that they’re doing what they can to make those orders legal. They’re not there yet, they’ll hopefully hit plenty of resistance before they get there, and they’re not exactly renowned for being competent, but they’re working on it.

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          So much wishful thinking.

          The US military is the biggest commitor of war crimes behind Israel, they regular slaughter civilians and laugh about it, and the only ones to ever get in trouble and serve time are always the whistle blowers.

          What planet do you live on?

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            Well, you see, those people that the American military murders on a regular basis are brown people in a faraway country, so they don’t count or something.

            As with most things, people don’t care until it personally affects them or people they personally know.

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              The racism subject aside, I DO think a the majority of them are gonna give big wtf’s when they’re told to do that to American citizens on American soil, regardless of skin color. There will be some who enjoy it because they’re scum, but I definitely know that even the craziest motherfuckers with the most PTSD who enlisted in several branches would tell you to go fuck yourself if you deployed them to New York and said beat the shit out of or shoot these civilians. They may be dumb as fuck, but they aren’t all that stupid. And yes I know this is naive and optimistic.

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                if you deployed them to New York and said beat the shit out of or shoot these civilians

                That would never happen. They would be told to control the violent mobs and restore the safety and security of law abiding patriotic citizens. And they’ll follow orders like every other military in the history of humanity.

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    4 months ago

    You mean the police aren’t already militarized? We had them riding APCs out here in PDX in his first term. Oy vey do I hate this man.

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      You yanks should have started the violence well and truely by now tbh! Now it’s just a combo of sad and horrifying watching this from afar!

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          I could only attempt to imagine, :( I really hope this mess is over as fast and as neatly as possible for you guys.

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            That is truly not possible, the cancer of capitalism is too deep in the government for anything to actually get fixed. The only way would be a massive invasive surgery to remove the cancer, or the country collapses and we have to build back up.

            Ive seen it happening since I was old enough to follow politics, we have done nothing but make it worse, never taking one step in the direction of positive change, at best we just stop marching towards the cliff edge for a few minutes. I used to think to myself “I hope this shitshow can at least keep going until I’m dead and gone” but its becoming clear that’s not the case. Now its economic collapse or facism or both. I’m fucking embarrassed by my country and more so a large swath of my country men that are just brainless fucking zombies without a single individually formed opinion, enthusiastically celebrating the dying breath of America, deluding themselves to thinking we are actually saving it.

            I do not understand how it is not obvious to everyone alive that a system built on endless growth is destined to fail.

            Fall of Rome 2.0 Billionaire Boogaloo