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This is a good idea

lol this is one of the worst ideas in history

I think this is from Raised by Wolves, which is a wacky ass scifi thing.

in a comic with no lighting

What are you talking about? The highlights on the sleeves clearly indicate some concept of lighting, it just isn’t consistent

A jury of astronauts would be kind of fun if it were possible for them not to know each other already, but I don’t think that’s possible with the current number of astronauts

I was well aware of him but I hadn’t heard anything about him in a long time. The right-lib/subtle fascist niche seems to have really died off over the last few years, in favor of more overtly fascist commentators mainly

When I said “I certainly don’t see any reason to listen to any of you who have gone 0 to 100 at me about it”, I meant that too very literally.

Dawg this is a 1. I’m being very polite. The problem is that any disagreement with you is a 100 in your mind.

Would you want to listen to yourself?

Yeah actually. I originally went vegan because of people being at least a 50 compared to my 1. And I realized, “Huh, this person is right. I have no logical response to their criticisms of my unethical behavior.” Then I went vegan.

It’s your turn. Look into your heart; you know you’re wrong, but you don’t want to admit that you’ve spent your entire life up till now being wrong. Believe me, no one cares. The time to change is now.

It is disrespectful to paint someone as having no “respect for the other living, thinking, feeling creatures we share this Earth with” based on zero evidence;

Again, not zero evidence. My evidence is the words you said. The words which stem from your lack of respect for other animals.

Now you portray me as being “outraged at vegans” which is also baseless. I expressed outraged at a person

A vegan

trivializing an ongoing genocide of human beings

comparing one horrific crime against innocents to another.

That you frame it this way stems from your lack of respect for the innocents in question.

and believing that does not somehow mean I don’t care about animals.

In my opinion it does.

If that were how things worked, then it would never be reasonable to insist one issue is worse than another, lest you are accused of not caring about the “lesser” issue.

Murdering ten people is obviously worse than murdering two people, but you would never accuse someone of “trivializing” the murder of ten people if they compared these two hypothetical events.

The issue isn’t that you see one issue as wrong and another issue as worse–you don’t see genocide against non-human animals as wrong at all. That’s why you find it outrageous to compare it to genocides against humans, which you do see as wrong.

Prior to that, what I did was go through a perspective, one which is common in socialist/communist circles for talking about capitalism as a whole, for why the solution to something is not as simple as individuals making the “correct” moral choice in their individual lives. This is an issue with capitalism that we talk about over and over and it doesn’t suddenly become irrelevant just because it’s an issue you might care more about.

Okay. Let’s consider this perspective in regard to another issue. “You choosing not to buy from Israel isn’t going to instantly end the genocide in Palestine. Therefore it is completely cool and okay to give any amount of monetary support to Israel.” You surely wouldn’t agree with this statement, right? Then why express this stance with regard to other crimes? (The answer of course is that you don’t think animal abuse is a crime, you like and support it and would prefer if we vegans would simply stop pointing out how horrific it is.)

And BTW, the more shock value rhetoric and spurious attacks you and others pull out on this, the harder it becomes to take any of you seriously.

You’re the only one attacking anyone by smugly saying how much restraint you have not to hurl insults at us for holding basic vegan positions, and by saying we “can’t be taken seriously” and so on.

Based on absolutely nothing.

Well, no, this is based on your outrage at vegans pointing out the horrific crimes we commit against our fellow inhabitants of the world. If you had respect for cows, or pigs, or chickens, of which we murder such incredible numbers that it is difficult even to wrap our heads around the scale of the horror in question, you would fully understand why it is appropriate and reasonable to compare their plight to other genocides that we all recognize.

If you want to be disrespectful, just do it, don’t pretend you’re being “nice.”

I’m not being disrespectful, I’m just disagreeing with you. If you can’t handle disagreement, reconsider posting on a public forum.

It seems you believe it is disrespectful to have a different opinion at all.

With all due respect, you only feel that comparisons between factory farming and genocide of humans are disrespectful because you do not have respect for the other living, thinking, feeling creatures we share this Earth with. You might benefit from listening to vegan survivors of genocide, such as Alex Hershaft, a survivor of the Holocaust. He directly compares factory farms to the horrific genocide he narrowly escaped.

Yeah, like I said, beyond terminally online. You’re talking about an animal sanctuary.

The Monterey Bay Aquarium is not SeaWorld, comrade. They do serious work in conservation and their animals are rescues. Calling it a “psychological torture facility for wild animals” is beyond terminally online.

there is quite a bit of interest from Chinese tourists in going to the border with the DPRK to, i guess, just look at them?

Yup, that is what my teacher said.

i think they’re just curious because they consider the DPRK “mysterious”.

This is the impression I got as well. I was pretty surprised, I really thought there would be at least a little mingling at the border, enough to remove any real mystery.

I asked my Chinese teacher about North Korea the other day because she lives really close to the border. She said people sometimes go look across the border and that she thinks they’re kind of funny because they’re “still in the 80s”

That’s what happens when you’re a big enough streamer. It really is crazy how much money people throw at them.

DougDoug is a pretty good egg tbh. His most recent video is about a bit he did on stream where whoever gives him the most money dictates what he does, which he repeatedly stressed is a terrible use of your money and you shouldn’t give him any. Over the course of the stream people gave him like $8k, which he was so uncomfortable with he gave it all to charity.

He’s a lib and rich, but he’s a good dude and you could be watching and supporting much worse people

It requires significantly more agriculture to feed animals to feed humans than to just feed humans directly. This is actually obvious if you think about it for more than a second and a half.

i may not be vegan (yet)

why though

You’re fiending so bad for someone to debate you but when I ask you for evidence to support a claim you just ignore it? Buddy you can do better than that

Lmaoooo please lay out your evidence for my 5 year old account with 5000 posts on it being a sockpuppet, I’m sure I would have to rescind my accusations of your dumbfuckery immediately

Dawg, the thing you’re not understanding is just because you’re trying to debate doesn’t mean everyone else is playing ball. “You’re a dumbfuck” is not an argument. You’re not wrong because you’re a dumbfuck. You’re a dumbfuck because you’re wrong, and instead of trying to fix what’s wrong with your brain, I’m simply mocking you.