I notice this with people talking about capitalism, obviously, but honestly what drove me to make this post is the attempted arguments against veganism. They’re basically 95% unoriginal and fail under the most basic of scrutiny.

Take, for example, “not eating the meat won’t bring the cow back.” Under basically any logical scrutiny, this is a clear double standard to any other purchasing decision in capitalist society, and doesn’t really make any sense. But I’ve seen in so many times over the years, so much so that im planning on becoming a vegan over a period of time. Not because of any arguments vegans make, but because somehow pro-meat eaters are losing a debate to a brick wall, and the conclusions I’ve made myself have convinced myself that I should be vegan. And I’m really starting to ask, do people just…like…ctrl+c ctrl+v arguments in their head?

I…try to be nice. But…how little respect to your own ability do you have if you do that? Not only to justify something you really don’t have to, but something you obviously dont care about. I mean…sorry, it’s just baffling to me.

In the words of Kim Kitsuragi from disco elysium, “I dont understand officer…please, help me understand”

  • amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml
    51·
    12 days ago

    You’re the only one attacking anyone by smugly saying how much restraint you have not to hurl insults at us for holding basic vegan positions, and by saying we “can’t be taken seriously” and so on.

    That’s something you’re projecting onto me. I’m not trying to be smug at all. When I said I was trying not to say something nasty, I meant it very literally because I was upset about what the other person had said and was quite literally trying not to devolve into insults/rudeness over it. When I said “I certainly don’t see any reason to listen to any of you who have gone 0 to 100 at me about it”, I meant that too very literally.

    Not everything is about feeling morally superior. Maybe I just don’t want to listen to you go off on me. Would you want to listen to yourself?

    • booty [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      43·
      11 days ago

      When I said “I certainly don’t see any reason to listen to any of you who have gone 0 to 100 at me about it”, I meant that too very literally.

      Dawg this is a 1. I’m being very polite. The problem is that any disagreement with you is a 100 in your mind.

      Would you want to listen to yourself?

      Yeah actually. I originally went vegan because of people being at least a 50 compared to my 1. And I realized, “Huh, this person is right. I have no logical response to their criticisms of my unethical behavior.” Then I went vegan.

      It’s your turn. Look into your heart; you know you’re wrong, but you don’t want to admit that you’ve spent your entire life up till now being wrong. Believe me, no one cares. The time to change is now.