Little edgelords are the first to cry when they discover that actions have consequences
idk man single issue voters that didn’t vote Kamala because of her stance on Israel were crying long before trump voters. You can’t even argue stupidity there.
You kinda can, it was quite obvious which choice was worse across the board
Indeed it was kinda obvious that Trump would be even worse for Israel
Even worse for everyone*
Which includes Israel
Different flavor of stupid, but not mutually exclusive to the previous poster’s complaint. There are a lot of shit factors compounding off of each other that culminated with Trump’s victory and today’s dumpster fire - each hold a share of the blame.
Kamala ran is the status quo. And you’re going to blame everybody else? You fucking knew what the electorate was take some God damn responsibility and admit you trusted the wrong fucking people so it doesn’t happen again.
It can be both. We can say the DNC was dumb for not choosing a better candidate or platform, and also say voters were dumb for not voting for Kamala.
I do not know about that. Seeing as voting for Kamala would never have changed the fact that the Republicans were going to take over, I do not see the equivalence.
I imagine a lot of them are edgelords but from my experience with people who vote for Trump a lot of them aren’t edgy, they simply don’t care about anyone else but themselves.
they simply don’t care about anyone else but themselves.
Not even. They’re just fucking stupid.
Because if you only care about yourself, why would you elect a felon with a demonstrated history of pathological lying promising you anything? It sounds like self-harm.
Either that, or you agree with the fascist shit and you’re willing to overlook the lying and the felonies for the privilege of having a fascist in power.
Either way, be Trump voters stupid or fascists, I have no respect for them or their regrets.
They’re no more stupid than the average voter in my experience. I understand it’s anecdotal but I have dealt with republicans who are quite smart and they vote like they do because they have oil investments or want unemployment to go up to decrease labor turnover in their business.
Ultimately democrats and republicans serve the ruling class. If all the voters who aren’t voting republican were smart they would vote for candidates that will make change. They would pick up from their more expensive major cities and move to lower population states, counties, and cities to dramatically shift the representative power. It’s just not that simple, people don’t want to live in bumfuck wyoming but the system is busted and Wyoming with a population of ~500k has as much say in the senate as California with ~40 million.
I think it’s fucking stupid to vote again and again in the same corrupt institution that has been losing to fascism for the past 40 years and expecting a different outcome to be stupid. To vote smart you gotta vote states with low populations and republican inclinations. WY, AK, ND, SD, MT, NH, WV, ID, NB. Seriously, if 200k leftists from around the country moved to WY and flipped two senate seats for leftists it would break almost every senate tie in my lifetime. Notice how voting smart costs money? Yeah, wonder how that came about.
Or are too stupid to understand consequences.
Which by itself is edgy
To be fair this generation had it rough. Thrust into the world of social media with little parental guidance and the powers that be actively conspiring to grift them…
They’ve been fucked out of political agency on their first ever presidential election, do you think they’ll ever trust anything ever again? It’s pretty tragic and the backlash will be phenomenal.
Show me any generation now with agency in prez choices, and I will show you sheep that do not understand we have allowed the aristocracy to game both sides, sucking enough to allow a traitor to end what remains of representational government, aka, ending the republic in all but name.
I don’t know man, my first presidential election is far in the past but as far as i remember my generation wasn’t manipulated by social media to trigger WWIII as our first political act. I don’t know if you realize the kind of blitz psy-ops shit that has been going on. Most adults are susceptible to that, and i have no problem blaming them, but how can you expect teenagers to not get caught in the net ? They’ve been priced out of IRL, and all of their online spaces, each and every fucking one of them, has been colonized at least since COVID. Of course they were easy to tip, and of course a lot of them are going to regret it now. Shit is going to get very dark when they come to actions.
Most of us have made our first political mistakes by voting for some kooky marginal candidate, not by bringing the God-King to power. We should consider ourselves lucky.
Holy shit, doomer takes like this are so cringy.
“We’re focused on Ukraine and Israel more than I feel like the United States. The military, I like it, has gotten much better than it used to,” he said. “But I thought he was going to come in and end the wars in Ukraine and the Middle East.”
I’m tired of hearing from delusional, idiotic politicians and billionaires. Hearing from a delusional, idiotic everyday person is a nice change.
Speaking as a member of an allied military, your military has gotten objectively worse.
I always wonder what these morons think the military is for in 2025.
If only there were signs ahead of time…
Yeah I really though this article would be about young voters, like 18 to 22 or so. I was thinking how dumbass kids in or fresh outta HS could just see the system as completely broken (it mostly is) and think that some jerkoff conman would be just the thing to shake things up. Or at least I could see that for the 2016 election, and maybe they’ve been living under a rock for 10 years–I’m trying to be charitable in this interpretation.
But the article was about late 20s early 30s voters, and it’s just like wtf did you fucking expect? Anyone who hasn’t seen through the con at this point is either complicit or dumb as a bag of hammers. Do these people also give their money to every scam email that lands in their inbox ffs?
In the latest edition of The NYT’s “America in Focus” project, Trump voters in their late 20s and early 30s who said they “somewhat disapproved” of or had mixed views about the president’s performance were asked about their reasons why.
This is a bit of copium - the article is only reporting on the survey subset of young Trump voters who shifted enough to disapprove or had “mixed views” on Trump, and then choosing choice quotes to play to a narrative.
The bigger statistic is:
A Pew Research Center survey in August showed that 69 percent of Trump voters under 35 approved of his performance as president. While still a substantial number, it represents a dramatic 23-point decline compared to the start of his second term.
So Trump’s support in under-35 Trump voters fell 23% since January. That’s significant, but among Trump voters, 69% approval is still high and is in friction with the narrative of the headline and article focus. 69% of those young voters see Trump destroying our democracy at a dizzying pace, and are ok with it.
tbf, they don’t see him destroying democracy, since all the news they consume comes through heavy filters to make everything he does look good and justifyable
Accelerationists realizing the pain is worse than they had imagined.
Disillusioned because corporations and the wealthy elite have used their resources to slowly chip away at democracy and purchase government piece by piece via lobbyists and think tanks.
Vote to destroy flawed democracy as laid out in agenda of one of the most infamous think tanks that began as a way to purchase government and undermine the civil rights act. Civil rights? Who needs those amirite?!
Rights stripped away. Flawed democracy falls.
Power vacuum filled by wealthy elite and corporations…
Now we play the waiting game? Not sure what is supposed to come next but this seems way worse than flawed democracy.
Dying is the least they can do early as a result of leopards eating their face.
Good riddance.
But the genocide enablers!
Dictators don’t work, there’s your first problem. Seriously need to fix the education system and strengthen history classes.
