But all displayed item from bottom panel is item from the 80s and 90s though, so precomputerised kinda either mean carburetor or primitive ecu that only control very limited function and can’t scanned with a scanner tool, which is still imo bad. As an automechanic I certainly doesn’t want to go back to scratching my head trying to figure out what’s wrong.
Edit: not to be too pedantic about it, but that’s what i get from this comic.
In the EU, cars have to be equipped with automatic emergency call systems since 2018. So probably since then most brands will have had it, as they are required to have cell connection hardware anyway.
There were a few sites that tracked manufacturer adoption of when the telemetry black boxes got installed, but I cannot find the specific ones I referenced a few years ago. You can “shop” for telemetry insurance and check that way too. The car won’t be eligible if it doesn’t have the hardware.
On one hand, firmware update sound really nice so lemon isn’t as sour. On the other hand, good, reliable car have absolutely 0 chance of getting enshittified by car maker, and they have to make sure the thing is good from the get go or risk getting forced to recall.
My favourite cars to own were made between 2003 to 2011. They’re so peaceful to drive compared to modern cars that constantly fucking screech and ding at you just for starting the damn thing.
Same here, mine is 2006 and already quite computerized for my taste.
But recently I did a trip in a 2020s car and it was … disconcerting. First of all it was automatic which I’m not used to. Unable to get it in gear, the 9yo boy in the backseat said: look at the screen, it’s telling you what to do!. He was right. Even so the car would not let me back into a patch of high grass, kept blocking the wheels. Jarringly.
I wouldn’t say no one. Carbs are just fine, and were insanely good before they were killed off. With our research now, We could have AMAZING carbs. And guess what, you can fix them yourself!
Myself and many others need nothing more than roll down windows, am radio, and a seat belt. Too many lazy people today want to drive a damn land yacht with 56 screens in it. yells at cloud
I get that, but honestly i’m getting tired of having to adjust the distributor timing and fiddle with the air-fuel ratio to get it just “right”, else the car would either underpowered, use a lot more fuel, or emission is gonna be off the chart. If you work on your own car then it would be all right, it’s a nightmare for people who fix it for a living. But i do get that, when it works, it works really nice.
I think my current issue with carburetor is exactly that, i can’t take it apart because everything seized, i can’t get a used one because it’s rare, and i can’t get a new one because all on the market is kinda crap. I guess that’s basically how most reliable thing get phased out.
No one want to fiddle with carburetor anymore thank you very much.
And tbh, 2010-2015 is comfortable enough and less bullshit.
Pretty sure they mean computerized interiors like infotainment systems. Probably not talking about ECU and internal computerized parts.
But all displayed item from bottom panel is item from the 80s and 90s though, so precomputerised kinda either mean carburetor or primitive ecu that only control very limited function and can’t scanned with a scanner tool, which is still imo bad. As an automechanic I certainly doesn’t want to go back to scratching my head trying to figure out what’s wrong.
Edit: not to be too pedantic about it, but that’s what i get from this comic.
Pre-telemetry cars from the naughties are the sweet spot. No cell connection either. New cars are icky.
When did this start to be a standard feature anyhow, and how does adoption track across brands & timeline?
In the EU, cars have to be equipped with automatic emergency call systems since 2018. So probably since then most brands will have had it, as they are required to have cell connection hardware anyway.
There were a few sites that tracked manufacturer adoption of when the telemetry black boxes got installed, but I cannot find the specific ones I referenced a few years ago. You can “shop” for telemetry insurance and check that way too. The car won’t be eligible if it doesn’t have the hardware.
On one hand, firmware update sound really nice so lemon isn’t as sour. On the other hand, good, reliable car have absolutely 0 chance of getting enshittified by car maker, and they have to make sure the thing is good from the get go or risk getting forced to recall.
I agree the examples are all over the place.
I think that’s more aimed at Internet connected vehicles than those with an ECU.
My favourite cars to own were made between 2003 to 2011. They’re so peaceful to drive compared to modern cars that constantly fucking screech and ding at you just for starting the damn thing.
Same here, mine is 2006 and already quite computerized for my taste.
But recently I did a trip in a 2020s car and it was … disconcerting. First of all it was automatic which I’m not used to. Unable to get it in gear, the 9yo boy in the backseat said: look at the screen, it’s telling you what to do!. He was right. Even so the car would not let me back into a patch of high grass, kept blocking the wheels. Jarringly.
Speak for yourself, there’s nothing wrong with my carburettor!
My distributor on the other hand is a pain in the ass. Electronic ignition has its upsides…
I wouldn’t say no one. Carbs are just fine, and were insanely good before they were killed off. With our research now, We could have AMAZING carbs. And guess what, you can fix them yourself!
Myself and many others need nothing more than roll down windows, am radio, and a seat belt. Too many lazy people today want to drive a damn land yacht with 56 screens in it. yells at cloud
I get that, but honestly i’m getting tired of having to adjust the distributor timing and fiddle with the air-fuel ratio to get it just “right”, else the car would either underpowered, use a lot more fuel, or emission is gonna be off the chart. If you work on your own car then it would be all right, it’s a nightmare for people who fix it for a living. But i do get that, when it works, it works really nice.
Yeah I prefer basic efi except when the factory in Taiwan stops making the plastic sensor you need, youre screwed. Thats pretty much all car parts now
I think my current issue with carburetor is exactly that, i can’t take it apart because everything seized, i can’t get a used one because it’s rare, and i can’t get a new one because all on the market is kinda crap. I guess that’s basically how most reliable thing get phased out.