Tesla owners said they had to wait nearly 23% longer to get their cars back compared to a gas car, while non-Tesla owners reported they had to wait 34% longer.
And multiple visits to fix.
The time comparison is invalid, because the repairs aren’t the same. Think about the maintenance you’ve done on ICE vehicles. Oil change, spark plugs, ignition coils? None of them have an equivalent EV repair. The ones that do (tires, 12v battery, air filter) are typically the exact same, and not worth contrasting.
Trying to compare the two will be very difficult, and rely on more abstract measurements like cost per year.
The multiple visits detail is very troubling though. It suggests the field is immature, and training/tooling are inadequate.
Seems pretty luck of the draw at least in my area. I’ve had some absolutely fantastic technicians and some who seemed to just want to hand wave away my issue.
That sounds like an issue with Tesla, not EVs as a whole.
issue with Tesla, not EVs as a whole
How did you come to that conclusion from the above quote?
Tesla owners… nearly 23% longer
non-Tesla owners… 34% longer
Tesla bad.
Read the article.
I got a 2020 Hyundai Kona in 2020, currently at 60,000km and my repair bill so far is just over $600 CAD.
I have had a few fluid top ups while doing software updates, my brakes are still above 50%, there were a few free recalls that were software updates. The most expensive thing was replacing the tires which I just did this year and only because I had one tire get a non repairable puncture and didn’t want one new tire and three 30% tires.
I don’t care if a single repair is cheaper than a whole car. In fact, I would expect it to be.
(That’s what this headline states.)
Bad headline grammar!
I wonder if there’s a /c for that?
I remember that video, and while it’s outrageous, it’s also that one shop who didn’t want to fix it. At the end they had to put a lot of work into it, but nothing a cood body shop couldn’t do for a fraction ot that price tag.
IIRC, and idk it’s been a long time & I didn’t research it in-depth, I thought the issue was with the frame & it got all bent, cracked.
Rivian is actually just down the road from me. Part of its miracle construction is its frames; there’s not a single bolt in its frames. Instead it’s a bunch of VERY strong adhesives that are cured in an oven. 🙂
…which is super cool, until there’s a frame issue from a fender bender/accident, and that makes true repair, full restoration complicated & expensive.
We also need to be completely fair & analytical: this isn’t an issue with the vehicle being electric, but rather a build decision done by one company that affects all their electric vehicles. If they switched from adhesives to traditional welds, bolts that specific issue would go away.
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Can’t wait for a bunch of shade tree mechanics to electrocute themselves trying to fix EVs in a few years.
ETA: Everyone who downvotes me must post a link to documentation on how to actually service an EV at home, under a tree, without a bunch of fancy tools.
Dumb rhetoric that corpos use to justify killing right to repair
How many people break their arms in belt assemblies? How many people forget to chock the wheels when they disconnect the differential and go “what the fuck it’s in park” when their car then rolls down the driveway and runs over their legs? How many people scald themselves on exhausts? Etc etc
I’m not gonna electrocute myself on some Teslas battery pack just cause Elon won’t release the specs.
Internal combustion 4 life
incredibly dumb
You won’t be saying that when you’re paying Elon or Ford or Chevy or VW or BYD for firmware update so you can drive to work.
Do you think car enshitification is specific to a particular drive train? Yikes. All cars want your “as a service” money.
No, which is why I’m not buying any car made after 2015.
Even if it kills me to keep it running.
That’s reasonable in a way that acting like it’s about ice vs electric isn’t.
Brand new ICE cars have firmware updates that stop you from driving until they’re complete too.
Wouldn’t you just disconnect the battery before doing work?
ICE 4 life
Pardon? Oh Internal Combustion Engine.
You might want to be more clear given what people in the US these days usually mean when they say “ICE”… But also, what a stupid hill to die on.
Opening up EVs to indie mechanics would be a godsend for competition and maintenance costs.
I remember this story from 2018… https://www.vice.com/en/article/rich-rebuilds-tesla-repair-and-salvage/
…that’s about what we would call “Right To Repair” these days.
I can’t even get a complete ODB2 scan on a decade old car without paying hundreds of bucks for some janky software.
I’m not touching a hybrid, let alone an EV without a solid life insurance policy.
So the issue has nothing to do with them being EVs…
What about a PHEV?
It’s called a service manual. The dealer will sell it to you, but it costs money. It’s the exact same as a gas car if you wanted the manual.
EVs have a battery disconnect usually located under the rear seats. Pull the seat bottom up, unscrew some bolts, and yank the lever to disconnect the main battery, and now the car is safe to work on.
You say that like they still sell service manuals and I didn’t have to steal both of them for my current old cars.
What shade tree mechanic wouldn’t steal it?
I sure as shit haven’t paid for them for any of my cars, nor any other car I’ve worked on.
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