The fact that she didn’t cry or scream indicates she is used to being abused like this.

See how butter and lamb are so cheap because we make so much here? It will be just like that.

Austerity never helps

Not that it matters because nobody seems to be interested in discussing anything but as a moderator can’t you just move it?

Lots of people dream of lambos and houses on the beach when trading crypto. That’s the whole lure of the market.

How do you know?

Nat voters were all in on Trumpism. David Seymour famously invited his supporters to wear MAGA hats although as usual he was too much of a coward to put one on himself.

This government only does the bidding of the USA and Israel so I am sure this will be shown.

Maybe we are just bad at being decent, intelligent, rational people.

It’s a step towards trump/orban/putin/erdogan/netinyahu style of fascism that the right wing in this country wants to bring here.

No thanks. Stay in your shithole country and fix it if you want. The last thing we want is that for the infection that has already taken hold via ACT and National to spread faster and further.

Speak for yourself. I appreciate the added context.

Uh huh. Sure buddy. Whatever you say.

They don’t have less corruption though.

I think they do.

They’re literally dismantling their own democratic processes.

Which ones?

New Zealand at least has its declared values in mind.

No they don’t. Nobody cares about these so called declared values (whatever the fuck they are).

I am a transracially mixed race asexual woman from Vermont;

Sure you are. I totally believe you.

You don’t think the EU or its member states have any corruption?

Why the straw man? Did I say they had zero corruption?

I said they have less corruption.

The streets of cities like Rome and Paris are filled with scammers whom they just let roam around to do their thing.

That’s not the same thing but hey if that’s what you are going to hang your high horse on OK I guess.

Spain in particular has a massive burglary problem.

We are not talking about burglaries though.

UK police don’t even necessarily trust themselves during public events.

This sounds like something a right wing zealot would say. You aren’t one of those wingnuts are you? One of those white supremacist trump loving idiots who hates everybody who isn’t a white straight christian male.

First of all the topic is corruption and a court system that doesn’t work for the consumer.

Secondly those surveys are measuring people’s feelings. We have gotten used to corruption and accept it as a fact of life. We don’t get upset when we are ripped off or when government contracts are given to politically connected companies or when jobs in both the government and the private sector are given mostly on the basis of mateship, how likely it is that you can pronounce the name of the person and their skin color. Or when parliament hands up punishment based on the political party of the supposed offender.

To us that all seems normal and matter of fact so we don’t get upset and go about our daily lives pretending all countries are also this corrupt.

Why are you changing the topic?

If we had decent public transportation we wouldn’t need the cars in the CBD.

Too bad. Seymour wants it and he is going to get it.

It’s definitely not better than all the nations. It’s certainly not better than any country in the EU for example.