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- Memes@europe.pub
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/27501866
source: @n7gifmdn@lemmy.ca
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2 generations. Gen X and Millennials are both of the right age to properly understand computers.
To put a finer point on it, it specifically the younger Gen Xers and older Millennials. That’s the “one” generation this post describes.
I’m on the older end of Gen Xers and at least the nerdier half of us not only know how to use computers, but we’ve seen the whole evolution of home computing since the Altair. We know in a way you never can why goto is considered harmful.
And on the other end of that, my niece and nephew are just on the cusp between millennial and gen z and they grew up playing games on Windows 95, 98, and XP. I think both Gen X and Millennials in their entirety fit the bill.
Maybe it’s just me but I feel like PDFs are significantly a less common part of life nowadays. Especially when it comes to having to edit one
Ah. You’re likely in the wrong job for it then. They are incredibly popular in any sort of digital paperwork job.
I’m curious. What other format you have to send and receive documents?
Uncompressed .BMP files from Windows 3.11 MS Paint
LaTeX
If you want me to read it, you better put effort into writing it.I tried to write my master dissertation in LaTeX. Emphasis on “tried”.
Trying to explain to a GenXer what Cobol is and to a Millennial what a Ring Light is and its practically impossible.
This meme is just ForwardsFromGeandma minus the 😂🤣😂🤣 emojis. If GenX/Millennials properly understood technology, they wouldn’t all be on Windows.
Pretty sure the only Cobol programmers left at this point are Gen X and older.
People are still on Windows because of massive industry momentum, and as the developers shift from being mostly Gen X and older millennials, to younger millennials and Gen z, things are getting progressively shittier. And it’s not only due to c-suite driven enshitification.
Pretty sure the only Cobol programmers left at this point are Gen X and older.
The funny thing is that we’ve got a ton of legacy hardware that still runs it, mostly in the public sector. But since GenX/Millennials avoided public jobs like the plague, what we’re seeing now are Boomers left to teach it to the incoming ranks of GenZs who can’t get a job in the dying Silicon Valley sector.
And just like that, Gen X disappeared from existence
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“sure, they grew up with technology, they’ll be fine”
They grew up in the age of the smartphone and apps. They never had to learn to understand technology.
I have to teach fresh college graduates how to navigate network folders. It’s wild.
I am gen z and know how to use a computer
Most of us should have been taught how to use computers in school then we expand our knowledge from there on our own
Is this an american only problem?
I’m not American. I’m also Gen z, but the older parts are typically better at computers.
People are as experienced in computers as their use case is
No one is better at computers than someone else, everyone has different tasks and workflows they use them for
Computer skill isn’t linear
It’d be more accurate to say someone is more experienced in their industry area or specific skill, they just use a computer to make the tasks they perform easier
Computers are so intergrated into most things theese days that it’d be very hard to find someone not using one to make their life easier and most jobs are using computers to make it easier and organise better
Unlike with boomers, this shit was your fault. Y’all refused to kill off iPhone and macbooks and chromebooks and Windows and now this is the world we live in.
I’ve trained a lot of 18-22 y/os in the last 10 years and they are fine. Let’s not become the boomers please…
Yeah, being dumb is hardware-agnostic. As some guy put it, “being stupid isn’t a big deal anymore; some of my best friends are stupid”.
It just stunlocks me a little bit as younger people have been around tech their whole life, unlike boomers, who were born before computers.“been around tech their whole life” more like they have a locked down phone, locked down game console and MAYBE a desktop computer. It’s too rounded out and consumer friendly now, you never have to peek under the hood.
I felt like an idiot the other day. Customer sent in a pdf with confidential information. I needed to upload the document without the confidential information but only have the free Adobe. I normally redact the information in paint but paint wouldn’t accept the file format.
I ended up asking a gen x teammate and she instantly told me to use the snipping tool which solved my problem. Thank you Gen X coworkers
Boomers: analogue phones and rolodexes. The nerdy ones knew Morse Code, though.
Gen X: grew up with picture books on assembly language programming
Millennials: know how to use Microsoft Word and Photoshop. Perhaps can unfuck Windows Registry keys if needed.
GenZ: “What’s a file?”
The nerdy boomers built computers as we know them.
That’s like saying that nerdy millenials invented mRNA vaccines. A very small percentage of the population worked on them while the rest weren’t even aware they existed for most of that time.
As we knew them, not as we know them.
Well, at a low level they are still basically the same. x86 still starts in 16-bit real mode. Mice still use USB 1 from the 90s.
Mostly it’s just a lot faster and covered with more layers of abstraction.
You know what I mean.
But you don’t know what I mean. Computers as most people know them now are tablets and cell phones. I blame X and the elder millennials for that.
Computers filled rooms back when the boomers (and earlier gens) were creating them, so even a desktop isn’t how they were known then. But it laid the groundwork.
Was Franklin laying the groundwork for computers as we know them when he discovered electricity? You have to cut things off somewhere for a statement like that.
It could be said so, but it’s a much, much more distant connection than working on things that are literally called “computers.”
it depends on the person. some zoomers are great with tech, hardware and software. others aren’t. same goes for every generation. this reeks of the “haha let’s shit on the younger generations” millennials have been mad about for years
Yeah I suspect what’s happening is that plenty of boomers were actually just bad at tech but they got to use the excuse that they didn’t grow up with it. Any gen z people that are bad at tech don’t have that excuse so it seems like they’re stupid, when in reality there have always been stupid people or people who just aren’t interested.
The thing is most of us cant even rotate a pdf, but we do know how to learn it.
Just think about gen alpha
Gen X checking in here. I’m actually happy to be left out of the memes. Carry on.
As a dev, the divide between apps users and computer software users is fascinating. My mom can do things in instagram or whatsapp that I didn’t even know possible… but put her in front of a modern computer with a simple application and she’s completely lost! I try to explain that it’s exactly the same as her phone its just a larger screen/physical keybaord with different apps, doesn’t seem to help.
Classic Lemmy Linux users forgetting that access to a PC and the knowledge to use it is a privilege not afforded to most unlike budget smartphones which cost less than the keyboard you own and are becoming more and more of a necessity than a trivial toy as it was when we first had them.
Lamenting generational failures is a pastime reserved for the old to soothe their egos. If you actually care, understand the systemic reasons why young people are less tech literate and take the steps to reach them.
I bought a 2013 MacBook Air for $60 a year ago to take with me on a backpacking trip.
It is running the very latest release of EndeavourOS and runs it well. It can do video calls. Honestly, there is little it cannot do.
You can use it to learn to program C, C++, Rust, Python, Go, Java, C#, and F#. It runs Distrobox and Docker so you can learn about containers. I guess after using QEMU/KVM to learn about VMs. You can use it to run K3S. You can run Postman, RestAssured, and Selenium to learn about Web APIs and testing. It runs WASM. You can orchestrate AWS or Azure from it as it runs both Terraform and OpenTofu great. It can run a host of cybersecurity tools including BurpSuite. You can run both SQL and Document databases. You can use it to package your own software and contribute to Linux distro development. You can emulate older machines and even run digital design tools and PCB layout. Obviously it runs all the major modern web browsers and a couple different Office suites. It can even do basic video editing and run smaller LLMs. It can run Steam if you are happy with older games. I know it can do all these things because I have.
Without going on and on, I think you could use it to rotate a PDF.
It comes with keyboard, trackpad, screen, and networking built in. It takes up hardly any space. And it is considerably less expensive than most phones and tablets. Of course, there are many less expensive computers that would also do the trick if you cannot afford $60 and just want to learn.
I don’t think you can argue that basic computer skills are elitist. We are not talking F1 racing here.
There’s one generation between boomers and zoomers? I’m pretty confident I know who it is you’re forgetting.
Gen X: the forgotten generation.
LOAD"*",8,1generationI would but i’m too busy blowing on my atari carts
Just helped build my 12 year old cousin his first computer and was forced into putting Windows on it. Now, I get that it’s important that he at least understand what the “normal OS” is, but I did want to put at least Mint or something on there. Zoomers and Alpha really don’t know how to navigate even the basics, though, and this kid was no exception.
Well, technically I wanted to put something based on Arch but even I know that’s a bad idea for a sink or swim computer moment.
Yeah, schools do not have tech literacy classes and it’s devastating, this is why
I dunno how old you guys are but just in case… Schools never had good computing classes. When I was in school in the UK in the 90s we had MS Office lessons and that was about it.
Actually the UK took steps a few years ago to fixing that. Apparently they have actually computing classes now, but I don’t have kids of the appropriate age in school yet so I don’t know if it’s really as good as we’d hope.
I’m 24, and same here in the states, its horrid here too
