Why yes, I’m also saying that the US is a Russian asset. That’s precisely my point
Then you’re a conspiracy theorist without any material analysis of reality. The nation with a GDP smaller than Germany is supposed to be controlling the largest empire in the history of the world and hegemon for the past 80 years in your worldview. This is simply because american exceptionalism runs so deep in your mind that you can’t conceive the US abandoning a former ally (as it did countless times) without the interference of “le other evil country”.
What do you mean by no basis in reality? I’ve read books on this, listened to entire podcasts, and read the news regularly from various international publishers. I’ve even linked to some credible sources right in this thread. There’s extensive coverage on the tactics and history of Russian meddling in the US. And I’m not even American for crying out loud. Anyone who has been paying attention and doesn’t have a vested interest in covering for Russia based on ideology or a paycheck can see this clearly. But I can see why someone with your username would have a bone to pick with anyone criticizing Russia.
I didn’t say basis in reality, I specified “material” analysis. You may have consumed hours and hours of content regarding the topic, but if your view of history is based on “big people with big ideas control the world” and not on “the material forces of history and the class interests and conflicts determine the passage of history”, you will reach wrong conclusions like “USA is a Russian asset”.
The forces in control of the USA geopolitically are the interests of the class in power, i.e. capitalist owners. The forces in control of Russia geopolitically are the interests of the class in power, again capitalist owners. The capitalist owners in Russia are, due to the way capitalism appeared in Russia 35 years ago, majority distinct from capitalist owners in the USA: different companies, different people, different funding, and different interests.
If you believe that one Russian man has the capacity of controlling the entire geopolitical apparatus of the USA and therefore the decisions of all capital in the USA simply by bribing Donald Trump, then the analysis you’ve been consuming is overwhelmingly wrong.
The main threat to USA geopolitically is China. China is the industrial engine of the world, has 5 times the population, has been experiencing sustained fast growth for decades, and most importantly, it’s a communist country with a strong communist party with a capacity to direct its capitalists rather than backwards. China is threatening key sectors of the American economy in exports such as automobiles, medicine, aviation, robotics, military, semiconductors, by providing the same products for less money or outright better products, so USA loses its capacity to export these to the rest of the world and its capitalists suffer.
The USA cannot face China directly in a military war because Chinese military is far more extensive as well as its industry, and because of the existence of nuclear weapons. The USA cannot outcompete China economically, because its capitalists are not controlled by a communist party who can direct the companies with a plan instead of the profit imperative of shareholders.
The only option for the USA to maintain its exports is to artificially force other countries to keep consuming its exports even if they’re not competitive. By alienating Europe from Russia and sanctioning it, the USA hopes to rein in Europe and push it further away from China, which it’s successfully achieving. 5 years ago, there were serious proposals by French politicians to leave NATO (geopolitically controled by the USA). Today, no government in Europe rejects the 5% of GDP increase and the import of expensive American military goods, Russia is economically sanctioned, and Europe relies on American gas, making it vulnerable to US sanctions should the US decide to discipline the EU states.
Now, Ukraine has lost its purpose. The USA has already successfully achieved its aim of separating Russia (and partially so China) from Europe, and to make EU rely energetically on themselves. There is no longer any purpose for the continuation of the war in Ukraine from the point of view of the USA.
Geopolitics in the USA, furthermore, are historically consistently a bipartisan issue. Both Democrats and Republicans support the genocide in Palestine, supported the invasion of Iraq, supported the invasion of Afghanistan, supported the bombing of Libya and Yugoslavia, supported the bombing of Vietnam, supported the bombing of Korea, supported fascism in Latin America and in Spain, etc. This is because, as explained, both parties answer to their true representation: USA capitalists. The fact that it is Trump who is pulling back from Ukraine is no more and no less coincidental than the fact that he pushed for “peace” in Palestine some months ago and achieved a peace agreement. Trump is a pawn, and none of the important USA geopolitical decisions are in his hand.
I sincerely don’t understand how deflecting to China and talking about all these geopolitical issues somehow overshadows the massive disinformation campaign that Russia specializes in and can coordinate along with other actors. If you think I’m only blaming Putin, you’d be wrong. The Cold War never ended.
Why yes, I’m also saying that the US is a Russian asset. That’s precisely my point. They’re certainly using it to maneuver a win in Ukraine.
I don’t know what’s so hard to believe about any of this given its trajectory for the past decade. Lol
Then you’re a conspiracy theorist without any material analysis of reality. The nation with a GDP smaller than Germany is supposed to be controlling the largest empire in the history of the world and hegemon for the past 80 years in your worldview. This is simply because american exceptionalism runs so deep in your mind that you can’t conceive the US abandoning a former ally (as it did countless times) without the interference of “le other evil country”.
What do you mean by no basis in reality? I’ve read books on this, listened to entire podcasts, and read the news regularly from various international publishers. I’ve even linked to some credible sources right in this thread. There’s extensive coverage on the tactics and history of Russian meddling in the US. And I’m not even American for crying out loud. Anyone who has been paying attention and doesn’t have a vested interest in covering for Russia based on ideology or a paycheck can see this clearly. But I can see why someone with your username would have a bone to pick with anyone criticizing Russia.
I didn’t say basis in reality, I specified “material” analysis. You may have consumed hours and hours of content regarding the topic, but if your view of history is based on “big people with big ideas control the world” and not on “the material forces of history and the class interests and conflicts determine the passage of history”, you will reach wrong conclusions like “USA is a Russian asset”.
The forces in control of the USA geopolitically are the interests of the class in power, i.e. capitalist owners. The forces in control of Russia geopolitically are the interests of the class in power, again capitalist owners. The capitalist owners in Russia are, due to the way capitalism appeared in Russia 35 years ago, majority distinct from capitalist owners in the USA: different companies, different people, different funding, and different interests.
If you believe that one Russian man has the capacity of controlling the entire geopolitical apparatus of the USA and therefore the decisions of all capital in the USA simply by bribing Donald Trump, then the analysis you’ve been consuming is overwhelmingly wrong.
The main threat to USA geopolitically is China. China is the industrial engine of the world, has 5 times the population, has been experiencing sustained fast growth for decades, and most importantly, it’s a communist country with a strong communist party with a capacity to direct its capitalists rather than backwards. China is threatening key sectors of the American economy in exports such as automobiles, medicine, aviation, robotics, military, semiconductors, by providing the same products for less money or outright better products, so USA loses its capacity to export these to the rest of the world and its capitalists suffer.
The USA cannot face China directly in a military war because Chinese military is far more extensive as well as its industry, and because of the existence of nuclear weapons. The USA cannot outcompete China economically, because its capitalists are not controlled by a communist party who can direct the companies with a plan instead of the profit imperative of shareholders.
The only option for the USA to maintain its exports is to artificially force other countries to keep consuming its exports even if they’re not competitive. By alienating Europe from Russia and sanctioning it, the USA hopes to rein in Europe and push it further away from China, which it’s successfully achieving. 5 years ago, there were serious proposals by French politicians to leave NATO (geopolitically controled by the USA). Today, no government in Europe rejects the 5% of GDP increase and the import of expensive American military goods, Russia is economically sanctioned, and Europe relies on American gas, making it vulnerable to US sanctions should the US decide to discipline the EU states.
Now, Ukraine has lost its purpose. The USA has already successfully achieved its aim of separating Russia (and partially so China) from Europe, and to make EU rely energetically on themselves. There is no longer any purpose for the continuation of the war in Ukraine from the point of view of the USA.
Geopolitics in the USA, furthermore, are historically consistently a bipartisan issue. Both Democrats and Republicans support the genocide in Palestine, supported the invasion of Iraq, supported the invasion of Afghanistan, supported the bombing of Libya and Yugoslavia, supported the bombing of Vietnam, supported the bombing of Korea, supported fascism in Latin America and in Spain, etc. This is because, as explained, both parties answer to their true representation: USA capitalists. The fact that it is Trump who is pulling back from Ukraine is no more and no less coincidental than the fact that he pushed for “peace” in Palestine some months ago and achieved a peace agreement. Trump is a pawn, and none of the important USA geopolitical decisions are in his hand.
I sincerely don’t understand how deflecting to China and talking about all these geopolitical issues somehow overshadows the massive disinformation campaign that Russia specializes in and can coordinate along with other actors. If you think I’m only blaming Putin, you’d be wrong. The Cold War never ended.
If you seriously believe Russia’s state apparatus propaganda is one fifth that of the USA, I dont know what to tell you.
They don’t need to be, they just need to be smart about it, and they’ve demonstrated they can do it.