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      Given consistent trends of exponential performance improvements over many years and across many industries, it would be extremely surprising if these improvements suddenly stopped.

      I have a Petri dish to sell you

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      Great response^

      I think Julian is going to be mildly surprised that METR’s chart keeps going up, and yet, will have relatively small effect on the majority of swe roles.

      At the same time, he did create alphaZero so he has a big old noggin! I wonder, after his success at Go, was he swept up in the mania that we would quickly translate that success to create super duper ai?

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      Links to the METR tasks w/ massive error bars at 50% level lmaou.

      Someone in the comments rightly points out the comparison with covid isn’t apt. With covid, underlying mechanism caused an exponential effect in covid’s spread

      With LLMs the exponential trend is being caused by exponentially spending money and a healthy dose of targeting benchmarks, which is why people are calling the top. The money literally doesn’t exist for this shit to go on so you can create your 50% accurate mechanical turk.

      Edit: idk the more I think about this the more it irks me. Like if I was allowed to pick and choose benchmarks that agree with my biases I would post something like this…

      … and claim model performance is actually getting worse over time.

      https://xcancel.com/sayashk/status/1966144670561612202#m

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        The second screenshot goes to a chart where the Y axis is labelled

        Task duration (for humans) where logistic regression of our data predicts the AI has a 50% chance of succeeding

        So they’re just extrapolating an exponential, not actually measuring it.

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      links to AI 2027.

      In Dutch we have a saying (from a commercial, well done on the advertisers there) ‘Wij van Wc-eend adviseren Wc-eend’ (we from the company Wc-eend, suggest you get Wc-eend), which seems appropriate here. It is used in a sarcastic context when somebody gives advice with a clear conflict of interest.

      Anyway, just going from the title, ‘X is exponential’ has been the pro AI cry since the singularity is near. (Which said, well individual tech follows an S-curve, but all the techs combined are exponential, and variants on that). All seems very hopeium, immortality is near!