Many of my friends are American trans people desperate to be able to stay here, terrified of going back.
Seems low. Where I live it’s probably closer to 90-95%
American here and I agree.
Even within the borders of this asylum, the “6 in 10 don’t trust the US and/or the average American” feels like it would be in the ballpark for the locals. For the people living next to this shit, yeah more like your numbers.
I get it, but like, this isn’t something the American people did. This has been orchestrated over decades by the wealthiest evilest mfers on earth. Definitely dont trust our government and dont trust the red-hatted folks, but do realize that if this plays out how they want, all of the regular peiple of the world are going to need to set aside that distrust. It has spread to England and Germany. Canada wont be immune.
Americans still enabled it. Fuck em.
You’re telling me that people like Steve Bannon don’t go to Europe to spread their hateful shitty rhetoric all around the world? Or that 77 million that voted for Trump have nothing to do with his election?
I know it’s not “all of them”, but it’s a good chunk. It lowers the trust level in general, want it or not.
The American people control who is elected at the voting booth. THEY did this.
Absolutely. Americans, Israeli, Russians are all regular people caught in the crossfire. There are some shitheads in support of their governments, and there are plenty more of those who reject it and will happily join the opposing forces, uniting internationally over the same goal.
And outside of political lens, people are still the same as they were a year or two or three ago. It’s just that different political circumstances highlight particular kinds of people.
The majority of Israelis support the massacre. Theyre not blameless.
Yet, you cannot blame any given Israeli. Those who do not commit genocide should not receive scrutiny
This Canadian has been avoiding all US products I can and has zero plans to ever cross into the US border.
Americans are fucking stupid can’t be trusted.
Canada should fortify it’s southern border and get nukes.
I would even be into an American style vetting on Americans wanting into Canada. Lets check their phones. Sorry, MAGAt. You support Nazi’s and Trump. Fuck off!
You sound like Kim Jung Un, or that orange guy, when talking about nukes, and securing the southern border.
Canada has a serious problem with a long term ally attacking our trade and saying we’re going to become their 51st state. Trump mocks and attacks our leaders and makes threats against us.
You can try to belittle my comments, but we have a valid reason to feel threatened.
I am Canadian, so what is this we?
If he invades Canada, that will start WW3, he won’t do it. He is too busy destabilising his own country, and deporting people. Also, we have no nukes, compared to the u.s. having over +5,000.
I think we should up security checks for guns and drugs coming into Canada, but not search phones unless we have probable cause. We don’t have to stoop down to Donald Trump’s level.
Make them feel welcomed coming into our country, and hated going back into their own country. We don’t need a wall, or nukes. You silly Goober.
6 in 10 Canadians had too much trust in US citizens
As an American, the other 4 out of 10 must be idiots. GOP is on a mission to destroy everything that makes America a superpower.
Canada has their own far-right wing. I bet around 30% are MAGA types. If you look at any election, 30% usually vote insane.
Those 30% morons should move to the middle of bum fucking Mississippi.
Maybe they just never trusted America in the first place!
It took you guys this long ??
From Mary Poppins:
Though we adore them individually, we agree that as a group they’re rather stupid.
from MIB:
A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals, and you know it.
Yours is more eloquent though.
Haha, I’m stealing this to describe religious people
Canada needs a nuke now more than ever. Build it. And any time the orange fuckhead threatens annexation load it up in the silo.
Might need more than one but you got the spirit
Sure…the US will let a country park nukes next door. See what happened the last time someone tried that.
Rapist convict trump can suck it. We’ll burn down the White House again if he pisses around.
The Kim dynasty is still in power.
They will fail to invade? Maybe this bay can be called Canadian bacon.
And Canada has nukes already, they are just labelled “usa”
Personally, my trust in any specific individual is entirely based on that individual, regardless of their nationality or any other factor… Because I’m not bigoted like that.
However, my trust in the American government and my willingness to use American brands has been permanently altered.
Given how much surveillance most major tech companies do on their users, I’m just about ready to break out the tin foil. Shit is getting wild.
This. I live in a bubble in California. We still have decent folks here. When I travel the country I tend to encounter the chuds at airport bars. The key child indicator is to respond that you’re from San Francisco when they ask. They won’t be able to contain the fox news eulogy for San Francisco and how it used to be a great state before it got "ruined "
I don’t blame them. I am (sadly) American, and I certainly don’t trust most Americans right now.
Edit to add: and don’t know that I ever will again.
This is exactly what they want to happen… most people are not actually bad people, they want better standards of living just like you and everyone else.
Some people are terrible and racists… but most people are tired of struggling and the rich getting richer… they just want their jobs back and to do what they are used to doing… they want to be okay because everything is fucked up…
They are being lied to, you are being lied to… everyone is being lied to…
Not everyone has forgotten their humanity, the people in control who want you to believe so, are the ones that keep telling you that they have
No matter how good a person could be, I wouldn’t trust them if they are easily manipulated in believing BS. I won’t hate them, but I won’t trust them.
Anyone with an bit of judgement could see what Trump was. And yet he was elected. Twice!
So all these “good people” have cpntributed to elect a fascist twice already. You want me to trust they won’t elect another one after him? That this is a two times mistake and Canadians can rely on the US after that?
Nope.
Maybe they were lied to about Trump. They will be lied to again by others about other fascists.
You can blame education, oligarchs propaganda, whatever. Point is: Canada can’t rely on the USA, even if Trump goes away.
This might put some of it into a better perspective…
You would be amazed at how easily you can be manipulated…
You will probably sit there and say not me never, but you probably have been manipulated and tricked into thinking differently and didn’t even realize it…
And you’ve been graceully and entirely missing the point of my comment. So maybe you should wonder what state of mind you’re in right now?
It looks to me that you’re more here to push a narrative about manipulation than discussing the topic.
Brecht:
“When the last [war] came to an end There were conquerors and conquered. Among the conquered the common people Starved. Among the conquerors The common people starved too.”
No one can trust an oligarch. If they live in your country, they are not your countrymen. If they don’t, they are not the common people who live where they happen to.
4 of 10 never trusted them to begin with
I bet more in ten Americans feel the same way about Americans.
… It’s probably about the same. A certain idiot never really dips below 38% approval rating.
They don’t trust us, we don’t trust them.
I don’t know who we is, but you’re right.
Yeah, I was just wondering what the hell is wrong with 4/10 Canadians?
Every country has “the idiot third”, add a couple “IDK” and bam 40%
half of those are probably Bertans
As an US American watching two decades of secular human sacrifice through the long tail of the gunpowder revolution has left me undernourished and starving for humanity.
I’m afraid that the humanity you starve for has always been an ideal, and not reality.
It feels like we’re near or possibly over the precipice of losing our democracy
I’d just caution our friends to the north and those across the pond that when I look at people like Carney and Starmer I see people as bad or worse than Biden and then I look at who’s waiting in the wings…
It’s been gone since Citizens United, dude.
Definitely worse than Biden, but the systems they’re running are better than the one in America so it about evens out. Which, given how the American situation went, is really fucking bad.
Same
After this nightmare is over, the Untied States need a complete overhaul
Holy fuck people like you are the problem. America isn’t coming back from this. Imagine being this clueless in 2025. This facist authoritarian government is there to stay for the next decades.
So you’re still saying it will end eventually?
A complete overhaul is the prerequisite for this nightmare to be over.
And that overhaul is both far away and likely to be extremely painful.
I always tell Americans to just try to get out. Failing that, it’s about surviving and not making the situation even worse in the process.
Yeah, talk about putting the cart before the horse.
Balkanisation might honestly be the only solution; but that would involve the US giving up its current position as the only remaining global superpower.
It’s not ending any time soon. The US supreme court will remain a theocratic conservative majority for most of our lives. Regardless of how old you are. You will be quite old by the time that changes.
A brave-enough Congress could overhaul the Supreme Court, as they had in the past.
Unfortunately that level of courage is missing from most current politicians.
Not that I’m trying to pawn off our responsibilities, but I think part of that change needs to come from the rest of the world putting us in our place. Quit bending the knee and letting us get away with murder. Sanction our asses.
Cuba is illegal in the Untied States. All other countries should outlaw the Untied States, make it illegal to go there and illegal to possess anything made there, until the Untied States behaves itself.
I hate that I’m lumped in with these people but I also understand.
Individuals are to be assessed and judged individually based on their own merit; but trust in the collective, particularly of those in a position of power has eroded so enormously that the ‘benefit of the doubt’ is lost.
There’s no choice but to assume the worst will happen; because of this, I will NEVER live in America. It will be a long long time before I even consider visiting, and for the foreseeable future I will continue to make an effort to not buy American products.
I’ve been removing American tech companies from my life over the last 5-10years, but I’ve been stepping up those efforts more recently and this is only more encouragement.
I’m lumped in with these people
Maybe at first glance, but first impressions aren’t everything. Everyone deserves a chance; keep your chin up m8. I wish you the best of luck in this crazy world. 🇨🇦
