If you say “they’re not even remotely comparable”, then you haven’t driven both. Or you’ve driven like one type of each, which makes you unable to compare them, it doesn’t make them incomparable.
I took my 04 GTO to 150 on an open public road in my younger days
You mean you once drove it at that speed for a very short time and then returned back to safe and rational speeds. Meaning that you’ve barely once even come close to driving a car as fast as it goes. Yet you’re somehow acting as if these scooters don’t have throttles, but an on/off setting and you MUST go 100mph at ALL times.
$450
Doesn’t really tell much. If you bought it from some store nearby, it might be an overpriced kids toy. If you bought it from China, it could be a relatively ok, on the cheaper side though. Does it even have dual suspension? Swingarm suspension?
I’m talking something along these lines:
That’s around 1k. But again, it’s much safer than any of the minibikes I drove in the 90’s and as long as you dress for the slide and not the ride, and with proper infrastructure and regulation, I don’t see the issue. If you think it’s genuinely just about safety, then honestly some of the backseats on bikes with like 200hp are far more dangerous. Like a tiny little bench which is practically curved and made of some slippery faux-leather, and you’re not the driver yourself? Perhaps I have trust-issues and that’s where that comes from, but that feels very unsafe to me in comparison to driving a scooter that can go 100mph. My fucking 125cc bike could go 100mph (it genuinely did, got it to 165km/h), and the rear suspension was completely blown, it was just the spring, So every now and then, on curves, it would “kick out” if I went to the curve too hard. One time with my girlfriend on the backseat, while I was passing someone, in a corner, and the corner had a little dip in the middle of it just as I’m balancing the countersteering exactly because I’m aware of the suspension. And in the dip, it kicks out like a mule at the passing speed. A little bit of poo almost came out. Not for myself, but I was afraid I had just killed my girlfriend. Luckily I didn’t. 'Twasn’t the only time I seriously endangered someone’s life on that bike btw. Oh and you can still see an image of that specific fucking motorcycle, which I find awesome.
At least for me, it’s the first result when you image search “Suzuki RGF”. I know it’s my former bike because those are custom colours.
See? I’ve driven one those on a shitty sand road. They go 50-120km/h. They have no suspension. A quality scooter with a long board and good suspension FAR outperforms anything like that or any of the minibikes which are completely legal, and larger in mass, just like I said.
Comparing those to a double-motored dual-suspended and sizeable board is a bad comparison. The scooter is much safer and easier to handle. Of course a scooter is unsafe compared to sitting in a brand new car cushioned with airbags, but, there’s also a price difference of several tens of thousands of dollars.
If you say “they’re not even remotely comparable”, then you haven’t driven both. Or you’ve driven like one type of each, which makes you unable to compare them, it doesn’t make them incomparable.
You mean you once drove it at that speed for a very short time and then returned back to safe and rational speeds. Meaning that you’ve barely once even come close to driving a car as fast as it goes. Yet you’re somehow acting as if these scooters don’t have throttles, but an on/off setting and you MUST go 100mph at ALL times.
Doesn’t really tell much. If you bought it from some store nearby, it might be an overpriced kids toy. If you bought it from China, it could be a relatively ok, on the cheaper side though. Does it even have dual suspension? Swingarm suspension?
I’m talking something along these lines:
That’s around 1k. But again, it’s much safer than any of the minibikes I drove in the 90’s and as long as you dress for the slide and not the ride, and with proper infrastructure and regulation, I don’t see the issue. If you think it’s genuinely just about safety, then honestly some of the backseats on bikes with like 200hp are far more dangerous. Like a tiny little bench which is practically curved and made of some slippery faux-leather, and you’re not the driver yourself? Perhaps I have trust-issues and that’s where that comes from, but that feels very unsafe to me in comparison to driving a scooter that can go 100mph. My fucking 125cc bike could go 100mph (it genuinely did, got it to 165km/h), and the rear suspension was completely blown, it was just the spring, So every now and then, on curves, it would “kick out” if I went to the curve too hard. One time with my girlfriend on the backseat, while I was passing someone, in a corner, and the corner had a little dip in the middle of it just as I’m balancing the countersteering exactly because I’m aware of the suspension. And in the dip, it kicks out like a mule at the passing speed. A little bit of poo almost came out. Not for myself, but I was afraid I had just killed my girlfriend. Luckily I didn’t. 'Twasn’t the only time I seriously endangered someone’s life on that bike btw. Oh and you can still see an image of that specific fucking motorcycle, which I find awesome.
At least for me, it’s the first result when you image search “Suzuki RGF”. I know it’s my former bike because those are custom colours.
But yeah, check these:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVgwrvtUC44
See? I’ve driven one those on a shitty sand road. They go 50-120km/h. They have no suspension. A quality scooter with a long board and good suspension FAR outperforms anything like that or any of the minibikes which are completely legal, and larger in mass, just like I said.
Comparing those to a double-motored dual-suspended and sizeable board is a bad comparison. The scooter is much safer and easier to handle. Of course a scooter is unsafe compared to sitting in a brand new car cushioned with airbags, but, there’s also a price difference of several tens of thousands of dollars.