• AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml
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    4 days ago

    You’re shrieking with baby’s first rage at the thought of people avoiding dates with white people because of the exactly correct definition of whiteness that you already baby’s first conceded.

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      4 days ago

      I don’t care who others date. I do care about people spreading racist hate. Your bigotry is not appreciated and it’s hilarious that you claim to be against racism while espousing such bigotry. Genuinely, you are pathetically not self-aware.

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        4 days ago

        You already conceded that white is not a race; it’s the social designation of who deserves privilege in society. So I don’t understand why you’re talking out of both sides of baby’s first mouth.

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          Mate, using your logic “black” isn’t a race. This is also technically true, but not really how the term “race” is used. Taking your logic and applying it to this term that is widely accepted caloquially as a race, you end up being able to say that it’s “impossible to be racist against black people” which would be seen as a racist remark.

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              2 days ago

              Explain how it isn’t? Typically once someone resorts to name calling in a discussion it’s a good sign they know they’re in the wrong.

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                2 days ago

                fuck you

                you explain how the shit you decided to write is my logic

                fucking asshole pompous piece of shit hypocrite

                self oblivious dumb motherfucker

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                  18 hours ago

                  Fine, I’ll indulge you.

                  white isn’t a race it’s the social construct

                  This is both true and false. By all accepted definitions of race that I could find, white counts as a race. However, race as a concept is a social construct. Some folks back in the day decided to categorize people by things they have in common. (e.g. physical attributes, geographic location, genetics) However, this doesn’t have any basis in science due to there being more genetic variation within the defined races than between them. Most biologists and anthropologists don’t accept race as a scientifically valid biological classification.

                  that means the absence of race

                  This is false by all definitions of race. Race is just a collection of people sharing similar attributes, so the “white” race absolutely counts, considering all “white” people share a similar characteristic: skin color.

                  Irish stopped being a race when they were accepted into whiteness by becoming police in large number

                  This one threw me for a loop, as I’m not really sure what you mean by this. Irish is 100% still a race, as they are a group of people that can be defined by geographic location. There are groups that don’t think they belong in the greater “white” race due to some historical beefs, but at the end of the day, most definitions of the “white” race include Irish folks, as they have white skin.

                  That’s why it’s literally impossible to be racist against white people

                  This part doesn’t make sense. By the most common definitions of racist, it’s possible to be racist against any given race. Some definitions of racist that I read in school did change that by adding a clause for racism being prejudice towards a marginalized group. In that case, it wouldn’t be possible to be racist towards the greater “white” race, as they have never historically been marginalised. However, this definition of racist hasn’t been widely accepted, as it almost exists to prevent being able to say racism towards the “white” race exists.

                  If you think that it’s impossible to be racist towards a race that is all-encompassing like the “white” race, then, unless you’re using a different definition of racist, then if would be equally impossible to be racist towards the all-encompassing “black” race.

                  No need to lash out just because people are calling you out for your misunderstanding of your own words. Given how your sentences are written, English might not be your first language, so there’s a good chance that this misunderstanding comes from a translation or language barrier. Hopefully I have cleared things up!

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                    21 hours ago

                    This is both true and false. By all accepted definitions of race that I could find, white counts as a race.

                    “NU UH!!!”

                    Wow what an academic

                    Never seen someone just bullshit before while using quotation formatting. You’re putting on a clinic of being a slimy dishonest asshole

                    Race is just a collection of people sharing similar attributes

                    Oh! Okay! So once you deliberately strip race of all cultural and material context white can be declared a race ‘because they look the same’

                    Well if you’re willing to just compartmentalize literally everything until your premise is affirmed then you can tell yourself anything, can’t you?

                    You’ve chosen a definition of race that’s completely useless for everything except one task: to be able to claim victimhood for the privileged class

                    Irish stopped being a race when they were accepted into whiteness by becoming police in large number This one threw me for a loop, as I’m not really sure what you mean by this.

                    HOW FUCKING STUPID DO YOU HAVE TO BE TO LECTURE SOMEONE WHEN YOU OPENLY ADMIT YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND WHAT’S GOING ON

                    REALLY FUCKING STUPID

                    Bet you’re white. “My feelings are more important than your facts and I’m elevated from you enough to speak without even knowing them” is extremely white coded