All of us simply made that choice to stand alone, together.
Best line.
a comment section that breathes “I care more about policing reputations of those in power than stopping genocide”
I’m not sure how chastising someone who gets onboard late is good for the cause. Movements take time to grow and being cliquish about it simply hobbles that growth.
“Someone” is a weird way to say “multinational conglomorate news media that has been throwing accusations of antisemitism for years at people for as much as saying Israel should kill less kids.”
Wtf? What on earth did you think I was saying?
Most of the criticism isn’t directed at a random"someone" its directed at a cadre of DNC insiders and press guys who know better and are still treating gaza like its just experiencing an sudden scarcity of food for no discernable reason.
In other words the people being made fun of here aren’t “onboard late to the cause”, they’re opportunists who see a shifting public opinion and want to pretend they weren’t cheerleading genocide to get free vacations or whatever. The only reward for “befriending” these public opinion mercenaries is the inevitable backstab.
I agree for normal, everyday people. But for the politicians and members of the media that enabled and in some cases cheered on this genocide , FUCK THEM. We can’t allow them to launder there reputation with an “oops guess i was wrong” statement and let them keep running this country. If we don’t hold them and there terrible decision making accountable then they’ll just get us into another atrocity in a couple years, just like Iraq.
The article isn’t criticizing any individual specifically. We should all take note of who is just now pivoting on their support for genocide.
We had a similar lesson with the Iraq war. Many politicians and pundits parroted Bush about Saddam’s WMDs and then later said it was all a lie. Those same people pandered lies again about 40 beheaded babies and secret Hamas bases under hospitals. Naming and shaming them now isn’t the priority but we should not forget who they are unless we believe their lies again.
What this also has in common with Iraq is that we already knew. People who changed their minds later on act like they were responding to new information and are therefore reasonable people who were just previously misinformed. But the evidence was always there the whole time, and those who were against it were doing their best to shout it out whilst getting shut down with accusations of being terrorist sympathizers.
You’re right
Attacking people who agree with you in order to fulfill your need to feel self-righteous and outraged is actively harmful… but people are tribal and social media encourages hot takes and outrage over healthy conversation.
People just internalize that toxicity. Like how the TikTok kids will say s*x or unalive in other social space because they’re conditioned by TikTok’s censorship. People pick up bad behaviors in their social groups and also learn to be actively hostile to anyone who tries to correct/disagree with them.
So brave finally speaking out!
It is
almostlike a propagandized media without freedom of the press from all directions, political, commercial, and the legislature; like someone made a single decision to change postureI think it’s likely an organic move which happened despite all of the forces you mention, due to massively changing public sentiment informed by alternate sources outside of their control. I think if the media was able to keep pro-Palestine sentiment low, we wouldn’t be seeing any of this flip. Basically they have no choice but to flip or lose even more of their power to propagandize. Which I guess could have come down from the top, but such a directive still probably happened because of what I mentioned.
I think things are just going to be so so so bad tht politicians know they need to get ahead of it.
My favorite part of your comment is that it will piss off all of the tankies trying to create discordance and feelings oppression.
Now that Israel is murdering the disabled children slowly instead of quickly, I am going to say that murdering disabled children… is wrong
I don’t care if they’re only getting with the program now, as long as they’re helping throw sand on the gears of genocide.
Just in time for the last Palestinian to starve to death!
The bar is high
Man, I kind of disagree with the premise of shunning anybody who dissents against Israel. The more the merrier, if my relatives could take an actionable stance against Israel and their enablers then I would support them in that.
The point is those people who were adamant against any kind of palestinin support shouldnt just get to wash that history without admitting some failure.
Like if Bush came and said Iraq was a mistake, and then blamed Obama.
I dont know who the fuck this article is about and why should I?
why do you care about some shmucks reputation more than stopping genocide?
Bush did come out and say Iraq was a mistake. He said it on stage while advocating against the Russian invasion of Ukraine back in 2022.
So we should forgive Bush for killing 2 million Iraqi’s then because he said it was a mistake? Never trust anyone who supported his war. Everyone’s just washing their hands so they can dirty them again.
No but when he stands against the invasion of Ukraine we should cheer him on, absolutely.
Do you actually think that’s any sort of change of heart for him? He absolutely doesn’t regret Iraq. Supporting Ukraine for him is just supporting more arm shipments. It’s no problem for him to say “aww gee Iraq was a mistake”, after its all done.
Hell, praising Bush for supporting Ukraine did more harm for the cause than good because the average american - even republicans - hate his guts.
I don’t care at all if he’s had a change of heart on Iraq, I’m saying I support him when he says “Fuck Russia.”
That’s cool, but you’ve forgotten the point. The people who’ve been supporting genocide all this time should not be forgiven nor should we stop calling them out. They all belong in the Hague like Bush. Telling people to be quiet about them is just another excuse to tell pro-palestian protestors to be quiet when they’ve been right the whole time.
It’s not about forgiving here.
The main priority here is to fix the problem, not to assign blame.
If the choice is between stopping the genocide and restoring peace versus hating all the people who ever supported Israel, that choice would be easy for me.
The point is to learn who to not to trust to prevent this from happening in the first place. If we didn’t keep re-electing people who supported the Iraq war this genocide absolutely would not have happened in the first place.
No amount of shaming them had an affect on them before. Only the prospect of real consequences for their crimes is making them change. All you’ve done is just found a new way to tell anti-zionist protestors to shut up.
No. What I did is say that if someone switches sides we should let them.
