You’re citing examples from the 6th, 4th, and 18th centuries and arguably the last one isn’t even about intellectual property
Even ignoring the blatant “what aboutism” if your justification for why it’s ok to steal video game ideas is because some Byzantians were mean to you 1400 years ago just know that nobody is going to take you seriously
No, but this might shock you, other countries have different definitions of what theft is. Theft is taking something from someone.
The funny part being that it is literally enshrined in American law that game mechanics can’t be copyrighted, so its not even in the definition of theft in America either.
Game mechanics can be Patented in the US, just look at the Nemesis system.
Also, just because a country decides that their definition of a thing is different than everyone else’s, doesn’t make it correct. Just look at Russia, they have so many different forms of lying to justify lying in everyday life, but that doesn’t make corruption OK.
On top of that, you were the one who defended this fairly blatant plagiarism by pointing to examples of theft.
No, pointing out hypocrisy would be going “hey, didn’t you also blatantly rip off a popular product? Isn’t it hypocritical for you to criticize them for something you also have done?” What Aboutism is defined as: “the rhetorical practice of responding to an accusation or difficult question by making a counteraccusation, by asking a different but related question, or by raising a different issue altogether. Whataboutism often serves to reduce the perceived plausibility or seriousness of the original accusation or question by suggesting that the person advancing it is hypocritical or that the responder’s misbehavior is not unique or unprecedented.” https://www.britannica.com/topic/whataboutism
Is this some kind of Russian proverb I’m too human to understand?
Also, you are very bad at this, it’s blatantly obvious that you have no response to my points, so you just keep trying to deflect and redirect the conversation. So, why don’t we just call it here as a loss for Chinese Apologists?
It’s not redirecting the conversation to respond to your statement that whataboutism is when the hypocrisy is “unrelated”. Which conveniently lets you decide what is related or unrelated.
I gave you the definition of the word, and you have issues with how it is defined, and blame Me saying that I am deciding what is and is not related? Pathetic.
Also, no. They are Orcs, plain and simple. If you have a problem with that, go tell that to Ukraine, see how they feel about it.
I have no issue with people going after China. I’m not a hexbear/ml stooge. It is possible for two things to be bad. It is possible for something about a bad entity to be neutral or at least unsurprising. Which is how I would describe China’s lack of real interest in engaging with, from their perspective, the global order’s new fad interest in intellectual property rights.
I would have thought this was obvious but forcing your rivals to abide by their own rules while flouting them yourself is not an endorsement of those rules, it’s a mockery of them.
Explaining means you actually explain your point instead of throwing out random examples of others doing something similar and then mockingly asking “I wonder why they wouldn’t care”.
You also seem to be moving the goal post with every post. You said China doesn’t care to engage in IP fad, I showed China absolutely does engage in it. Now you’re saying of course they do because they flount the rules themselves. Actually they don’t. A few years ago Beijing IP court decided a Chinese artist had to pay around half a million to a Belgian artist for plagiarizing his work. I guess you’re about to find another excuse to shift the goal post once again.
“Why don’t China care about western patents and copyright?”
You’re citing examples from the 6th, 4th, and 18th centuries and arguably the last one isn’t even about intellectual property
Even ignoring the blatant “what aboutism” if your justification for why it’s ok to steal video game ideas is because some Byzantians were mean to you 1400 years ago just know that nobody is going to take you seriously
If you think that historical context doesnt inform culture, you must be an American, in possession of neither.
So, you’re saying that it is the Chinese culture to steal from others because they were stolen from? That sounds racist as hell.
No, but this might shock you, other countries have different definitions of what theft is. Theft is taking something from someone.
The funny part being that it is literally enshrined in American law that game mechanics can’t be copyrighted, so its not even in the definition of theft in America either.
Game mechanics can be Patented in the US, just look at the Nemesis system.
Also, just because a country decides that their definition of a thing is different than everyone else’s, doesn’t make it correct. Just look at Russia, they have so many different forms of lying to justify lying in everyday life, but that doesn’t make corruption OK.
On top of that, you were the one who defended this fairly blatant plagiarism by pointing to examples of theft.
I mean… this guy does have a point.
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Good ole “what aboutism”
We used to just call that “pointing out hypocrisy” before Americans found a thought terminating phrase for it
No, pointing out hypocrisy would be going “hey, didn’t you also blatantly rip off a popular product? Isn’t it hypocritical for you to criticize them for something you also have done?” What Aboutism is defined as: “the rhetorical practice of responding to an accusation or difficult question by making a counteraccusation, by asking a different but related question, or by raising a different issue altogether. Whataboutism often serves to reduce the perceived plausibility or seriousness of the original accusation or question by suggesting that the person advancing it is hypocritical or that the responder’s misbehavior is not unique or unprecedented.” https://www.britannica.com/topic/whataboutism
And, as always, it is in the sealion’s power to determine what is the same, and what is “different but related”.
Arf arf arf
Is this some kind of Russian proverb I’m too human to understand?
Also, you are very bad at this, it’s blatantly obvious that you have no response to my points, so you just keep trying to deflect and redirect the conversation. So, why don’t we just call it here as a loss for Chinese Apologists?
It’s not redirecting the conversation to respond to your statement that whataboutism is when the hypocrisy is “unrelated”. Which conveniently lets you decide what is related or unrelated.
Do you not consider Russians human?
I gave you the definition of the word, and you have issues with how it is defined, and blame Me saying that I am deciding what is and is not related? Pathetic.
Also, no. They are Orcs, plain and simple. If you have a problem with that, go tell that to Ukraine, see how they feel about it.
yikes, cool it with the dehumanization honey, it’s not a good look
Only US is allowed to invade other countries and steal what it wants
What are you talking about? Is this a bot?
Pretty sure it’s a Russian bot yeah. It seems to have a lot of issues with westerners and Americans in particular.
So many bots nowadays on Reddit. I won’t be surprised we have bots here
“Issues with westerners” is an odd choice given that I’m Irish but ok.
It’s not my job to comfort American fragility. Genocide enablers are fair targets in all situations.
So, wait, Namco are Genocide enablers? Since when?
Also, my guy, I’ve met plenty of Tankies in my life, it’s not uncommon to see a westerner that hates westerners.
So what’s your issue with people going after China? After all it’s fair game because China is also a genocide enabler.
I have no issue with people going after China. I’m not a hexbear/ml stooge. It is possible for two things to be bad. It is possible for something about a bad entity to be neutral or at least unsurprising. Which is how I would describe China’s lack of real interest in engaging with, from their perspective, the global order’s new fad interest in intellectual property rights.
Then you should’ve made that argument instead of arguing that it’s justified because centuries ago something was stolen from them.
But I’m not sure how you got the impression China has no interest in engaging with the IP rights when last year they filed more IPs than anyone else in the world.
Explained is not the same as justified.
I would have thought this was obvious but forcing your rivals to abide by their own rules while flouting them yourself is not an endorsement of those rules, it’s a mockery of them.
Explaining means you actually explain your point instead of throwing out random examples of others doing something similar and then mockingly asking “I wonder why they wouldn’t care”.
You also seem to be moving the goal post with every post. You said China doesn’t care to engage in IP fad, I showed China absolutely does engage in it. Now you’re saying of course they do because they flount the rules themselves. Actually they don’t. A few years ago Beijing IP court decided a Chinese artist had to pay around half a million to a Belgian artist for plagiarizing his work. I guess you’re about to find another excuse to shift the goal post once again.