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You forgot the part where they kicked out the French.
Twice!
Fuck yeah! Love Vietnam, I’m just sad they’re communist country. Maybe one day they will kick out communism too!
I think the problem is authoritarianism rather than which coat of paint the authoritarianism uses, but eh.
Hell, they probably would have been pro-US commies if we helped instead of subscribed to Domino Theory.
Ah domino-theory. A logical fallacy given a different name in order to seem more likely.
Always has been always will be.
Vietnam is socialist in name only at this point. The private sector employs more people and produces more of the country’s GDP than the public sector.
Ah. I guess I’m talking more about the corruption lol. My parents ran away from there and talk a lot of shit about “the fall of Vietnam”
yeah. corruption exists everywhere. even where your parents are now. hating communism from that era is a result of marketing.
You can’t really escape corruption but some places are worse than others and I guess Vietnam has it worse.
It’s so funny how someone can look at all the actions of Anti Imperialist history in Vietnam and then still go “communism bad though”.
Dude. You might want to wake up and realize that it’s literally the communist and socialist that the ones that fight against Imperialism everywhere.
You’re essentially saying: “Yeah, I love Pasta. But it’s a shame that the people that make the best Pasta are Italians.”
This is what communist do my friend.
This is what communist do my friend.
I mean…
We could look at the two most famous examples of communist countries and see that that is very much not the case. Ask how the countries on the periphery of the Soviet Union felt. Ask how Tibet and Xinjiang feel about China today.
Vietnam’s history has more to do with their own self-interest at each turn, rather than a systemic anti-imperialist ideology. Like yeah, when France, China, and America are doing imperialism on your country of course you’re going to fight against imperialism. They overturned the Khmer Rouge due to a combination of: the fact that the Khmer Rouge regime was invading their territory, the fact that Cambodia at the time was siding with China in the Sino-Soviet split while Vietnam sided with the USSR, a general desire for stability in their region, and the humanitarian concerns. Imperialism, for or anti-, didn’t factor into it. In fact, a reasonable argument could be made that that “Vietnamese territory” the Khmer Rouge was attempting to take only became Vietnamese because of how French Indochina borders were drawn (i.e., because of imperialism), and that historically it was Khmer territory. It’s not a bulletproof argument—discussions about historical borders and land claims rarely are—but it’s not unreasonable.
Dude. You might want to wake up and realize that it’s literally the communist and socialist that the ones that fight against Imperialism everywhere.
Uh, considering we’re discussing MLs here, they fought against capitalist imperialism and imposed their own state capitalist imperialist holdings.
So what do you love about Vietnam?
Am Vietnamese American lol. I go there for the scenery and good eats!
A friend of mine went to Vietnam for a few weeks on vacation (lucky bastard), said it was a gorgeous country, very welcoming.
The people there are lovely. The country is beautiful and the food is fantastic. I hope I get to go again.
would love to learn the language!
