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    My not voting for democrats had zero impact because theres no popular vote.

    I’m trans and I spent all of 2024 trying to point out that the Democrats were making a catastrophic mistake by continuing to arm the genocidal settlers and expecting everyone to forget just in time for the election. That fell on deaf ears. Here we are now with the consequences clear to see and all I can conclude is that some people will never learn.

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      My not voting for democrats had zero impact because theres no popular vote.

      How far in the ground was your head when the media kept calling his popular vote win a public mandate? You can’t see how that empowered him? Really?

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        I sincerely doubt that anyone was ‘empowered’ by that. Trump had a playbook he was going to follow from the start and the Democrats surrendered the election by refusing to meaningfully restrain Israel in any way.

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          Or just read the room at all.

          Biden said he was going to be a transitional, 1-term president. Then around January of 2024, his staff start reporting that he wants to race.

          And then the absolutely mind boggling handling of the race from that point on: failing to advertise their wins, ignoring the public’s pain points, and transitioning from the incumbent to another candidate with no primary process, among others.

          The Democrats played their part by absolutely doing nothing to stop Trump’s momentum. They could have at least fought back by LYING to their base and leftists to rally up, but they even failed at that.

          Truly the best way to fumble the ball.

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          Pretend you’re a Republican politician that wants to enact project 2025 which is unpopular with your constituents. Does the guy leading the charge winning the popular vote give you more or less plausible deniability when it comes to your next campaign and you’re trying to distance yourself from it? How can’t you see “he won the popular vote” being a great excuse for them on every level to support him? And the opposition has to excuse not supporting the “popular” platform. If you’re trying to rationalize not voting as it not mattering just stop, you fucked up but it’s ok, don’t let the cognitive dissonance help them

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            If you’re trying to rationalize not voting as it not mattering just stop, you fucked up but it’s ok, don’t let the cognitive dissonance help them

            I watched Bush get elected while losing the popular vote and he invaded two countries. You are welcome to think that Trump losing the popular vote would be meaningful, I don’t think it matters.

            If you’re trying to rationalize not voting as it not mattering just stop, you fucked up but it’s ok, don’t let the cognitive dissonance help them

            If you’re trying to sway me with this, just stop you fucked up, but it’s ok.

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              I watched Bush get elected while losing the popular vote and he invaded two countries

              Did I say Dems are good and bad things wouldn’t happen under them? Do you just not understand the concept of degrees of effect? What a disingenuous thing to bring up

              If you’re trying to sway me with this, just stop you fucked up, but it’s ok.

              What even are you trying to say? You’re indecipherable from satire

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                Did I say Dems are good and bad things wouldn’t happen under them?

                Bush was a republican, I was providing an example of how little ‘winning’ the popular vote matters at all.

                What even are you trying to say? You’re indecipherable from satire

                I was mocking your feigned concern, I did it by quoting back what you just said to me: “just stop you fucked up, but it’s ok.”

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                  I was providing an example of how little ‘winning’ the popular vote matters at all.

                  No you weren’t. Again, do you just not understand the concept of degrees of effect? That’s the entire point that you’re ignoring.

                  And I’m very concerned about you. It is not feigned

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                    I watched Bush get elected while losing the popular vote and he invaded two countries

                    I was providing an example of how little ‘winning’ the popular vote matters at all.

                    to which you reply

                    No you weren’t

                    How… does that not demonstrate that the popular vote doesn’t matter?

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                    I sincerely don’t think that getting a slightly narrower margin would make an impact in how these people behave.

                    And I’m very concerned about you. It is not feigned

                    Why, am I suspicious?

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      Your moral fortitude will be appreciated when we share a camp/ You understand the lesson they’ll learn is just “the people are fascist”. Why the fuck would they try to cater to voters who can’t be relied on? Look how piss scared the establishment is because Mamdani won a primary? Yeah, the Presidency didn’t have one because Biden was an idiot and Pelosi blocked it at the last second, enabling genocide at home isn’t going to do shit for Palestine or to teach the DNC

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      Vote for the candidate you want in the PRIMARY. In the general, it’s a good idea to vote against the one that’s a complete facist/dictator/whatever. If you’re trans and you didn’t vote Harris in the general, you voted against your own interests and the interests of other LGBTQ+ folks and should be giving serious thought to that.

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        Under our bullshit election system my vote had zero impact, there is no popular vote for president. There was no primary because the democrats pretended that Joe Biden’s brain was still working until it was far too late to have any primary.

        If you’re trans and you didn’t vote Harris in the general, you voted against your own interests and the interests of other LGBTQ+ folks and should be giving serious thought to that.

        I voted for the communists, the entire combined vote for all third parties would not have changed how my state went.

        As far as I’m concerned the Democrats are the ones to blame for the situation we are now in, not the people who didn’t vote for them.

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          Stay strong. You’re doing the right thing and will have comrades in arms when it comes to it.

          Don’t let lib shit-for-brains make you believe anything else. I hope we’ll see the day they’re all destroyed along with the reactionaries.

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          I voted for the communists,

          That’s literally a pro-genocide vote considering their foreign policy positions, Jesus fucking Christ

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            That’s literally a pro-genocide vote

            Says the person trying to browbeat others into voting for politicians directly complicit in the slaughter.

            You’ve already made it very clear you’re a first world campist, don’t really see any reason to take your opinions seriously.

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              I’m a first world campist for… saying that supporting LGBT murder is bad?

              Uh, sorry that you support LGBT murder so strongly?

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                The number one killer of gay and trans Palestinians is Israel using US weapons. I am opposed to politicians like Biden and Trump and their respective co-conspirators arming and defending genocidal settlers.

                I’m a first world campist for… saying that supporting LGBT murder is bad?

                No, you are a first world campist because you clearly love genocide, killing LGBT people and capitalism as long as it’s team blue doing it. Just making observations based on the stuff I see you regularly regurgitate onto the internet.

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                  The number one killer of gay and trans Palestinians is Israel using US weapons. I am opposed to politicians like Biden and Trump and their respective co-conspirators arming and defending genocidal settlers.

                  Luckily, you’re 100% in support of the #1 killer of gay and trans Yemenis and of gay Iranians! Go Good Camp!

                  No, you are a first world campist because you clearly love genocide, killing LGBT people and capitalism as long as it’s team blue doing it.

                  lmao

                  Feel free to quote me on any of that.

                  Sorry that you think opposition to Israel doesn’t count if I didn’t support Nazis murdering people of color at home and abroad, and the murder of LGBT folk by religious fanatics. Sorry that you’re so enamored with genociding LGBT folk that you’ll support any fascist you can find to achieve it.

                  Any other sieg heils you’d like to throw out, like “A Curse Upon The Jews”?

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                    Luckily, you’re 100% in support of the #1 killer of gay and trans Yemenis and of gay Iranians! Go Good Camp!

                    I disavow that shit, you are attacking straw women again, but you seem to like doing that.

                    Feel free to quote me on any of that.

                    you are here, browbeating people for not voting for the politicians directly complicit in a genocide, almost a year after the fact. I don’t see any way to view that other than unquestioning loyalty to the Democrat and all of their murderous "foreign policy’ goals. You run an anti-communist snark comm during actual fascism. hence you are camp 1ist.

                    Sorry that you think opposition to Israel doesn’t count if I didn’t support Nazis murdering people of color at home and abroad, and the murder of LGBT folk by religious fanatics. Sorry that you’re so enamored with genociding LGBT folk that you’ll support any fascist you can find to achieve it.

                    I am trans, I sincerely wish the Democrats weren’t complete fuckups and actually listened to people like me over a year ago and cut the genocidal settlers off then and there, before it cost them the election.

                    The number one killer of gay and trans Palestinians is US weapons in Israeli hands.