• The Quuuuuill@slrpnk.net
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        3 months ago

        only jesus said there is a new covenant with him, which nearly all denominations interpret to mean the rite of circumcision is a thing of the past

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          2 months ago

          Supposedly, Jesus was the new covenant. All these sunworshiping cults can’t get along. But yet they think they’re the ones that should be in charge. They’re all a bunch of idolaters.

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          3 months ago

          … Unless you’re in Protestant dominated USAmerica, where male genital mutilation remains a widespread, common practice.

          Roughly 80% of American boys/men are circumcized, almost all at birth.

          I can provide either statistics or pics as proof, your choice.

          EDIT: There’s also a whole history of basically junk/fraudulent science in the US being used as a validation of this practice, much of which basically claims that having your whole hood intact makes you more vulnerable to skin infections and STDs.

          This is false, but Americans are quite good at doing motivated reasoning and convincing themselves it is objective critical analysis.

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            3 months ago

            Tell that to the doctors recommending it then, not to us. As far as I’m concerned this obsession over it is a mental disease and not one I’m pleased to see making the jump from Reddit.

            I’m circumcised, and I don’t give a shit, and I never will, and it’s not the same thing as FGM at all.

            • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              3 months ago

              Discussing it isn’t an obsession, an obsession would be making your whole personality about it, or basically having that be a primary hobby or something.

              You are doing a less extreme version of the thing that politcal news pundits do against protests:

              Protesting as a concept is fine, but it turns out any protest with views I disagree with? Well they’re protesting wrong.

              If you are reading this as an obsession, I dunno what to tell you, check my comment history and you’ll see this is the first thread I’ve ever mentioned it in, and my older, nearly year old account? Don’t think I ever mentioned it.

              Finally: Yes, female genital mutilation is very often much, much worse, in that it usually entails total removal of the clitoris, which is… basically fundamental to the ability of a woman to experience pleasure and orgasm.

              But that doesn’t mean male genital mutilation is not also bad. The male hood also generally has a much higher concentration of nerve endings than… basically everywhere other than the head.

              And both of these practices fundamentally remove bodily autonomy from a baby/child, and are culturally/religiously done for reasons that ultimately or directly arise from a very paternalistic and authoritarian approach to children as property of parents, and intending to diminish and control their sexual characteristics without consent.

              … But if you don’t wanna have this discussion, feel free to block me, or just… not discuss… this…?

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                I will block you because this is tedious, but know that I will always discuss this and never let it go uncommented on because it’s unhinged. While you supposedly don’t make this your entire personality there were those on Reddit who definitely did, and you smell just like them. I will never stop speaking out that this whole thing is a bullshit non issue.

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                  I will always discuss this and never let it go uncommented on

                  I dunno, sounds like the one who’s made it their whole personality might not be spectral here.

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                  3 months ago

                  Why would you come to a thread about circumcision, read the comments about circumcision, and leave a comment about being fed up of circumcision discussions if you were tired of talking about circumcision? And then block a guy who replies to your comment in a reasonable and ration manner because he reminds you of someone on a different website.

                  If anyone’s “unhinged” here it’s the guy who doesn’t just move on to the next thread.

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    3 months ago

    pro tip: you can’t stutter if you never existed.

    you also can’t loose yor peen tip or your protip.

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    3 months ago

    Thou shall try really really really hard not to kill anyone, unless they pray to a different invisible made up man in the sky to the one you do.

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    3 months ago

    Jesus was in fact the one to say “yeah all this old rules don’t matter, just focus on these two: don’t be a dick and don’t be a fucking dick, god damn”

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    You know, I have a personal theory that this particular law was established as a measure of genital hygiene, since without the foreskin dirt does not accumulate on the glans; but over the years it was distorted until it became a divine mandate that is just for the sake of it.

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      The vast majority of the Bible was simply guidelines to keep people healthy and happy. All this “the skin of the pig is unclean” stuff? They hadn’t figured out germs yet. No sex until marriage? No contraceptives, so don’t create uncared for children. I won’t waste my time on it but, when examined in context, this is the vast majority, if not the entirety of the bible: lessons on how to be safe and happy relative to the time, made digestable and relevant to the common person.

      Sucks they had to get there via fear of imaginary, post-life pain, and it sucks twice as hard that they’ve neglected to rationalize that part as the rest of the belief structure has modernized.

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    Casual reminder that many religious rules were just basic Hygiene practices from prehistoric times which were later absorbed into the local beliefs.