• The Quuuuuill@slrpnk.net
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    4 months ago

    only jesus said there is a new covenant with him, which nearly all denominations interpret to mean the rite of circumcision is a thing of the past

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      2 months ago

      Supposedly, Jesus was the new covenant. All these sunworshiping cults can’t get along. But yet they think they’re the ones that should be in charge. They’re all a bunch of idolaters.

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      4 months ago

      … Unless you’re in Protestant dominated USAmerica, where male genital mutilation remains a widespread, common practice.

      Roughly 80% of American boys/men are circumcized, almost all at birth.

      I can provide either statistics or pics as proof, your choice.

      EDIT: There’s also a whole history of basically junk/fraudulent science in the US being used as a validation of this practice, much of which basically claims that having your whole hood intact makes you more vulnerable to skin infections and STDs.

      This is false, but Americans are quite good at doing motivated reasoning and convincing themselves it is objective critical analysis.

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        4 months ago

        Tell that to the doctors recommending it then, not to us. As far as I’m concerned this obsession over it is a mental disease and not one I’m pleased to see making the jump from Reddit.

        I’m circumcised, and I don’t give a shit, and I never will, and it’s not the same thing as FGM at all.

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          4 months ago

          Discussing it isn’t an obsession, an obsession would be making your whole personality about it, or basically having that be a primary hobby or something.

          You are doing a less extreme version of the thing that politcal news pundits do against protests:

          Protesting as a concept is fine, but it turns out any protest with views I disagree with? Well they’re protesting wrong.

          If you are reading this as an obsession, I dunno what to tell you, check my comment history and you’ll see this is the first thread I’ve ever mentioned it in, and my older, nearly year old account? Don’t think I ever mentioned it.

          Finally: Yes, female genital mutilation is very often much, much worse, in that it usually entails total removal of the clitoris, which is… basically fundamental to the ability of a woman to experience pleasure and orgasm.

          But that doesn’t mean male genital mutilation is not also bad. The male hood also generally has a much higher concentration of nerve endings than… basically everywhere other than the head.

          And both of these practices fundamentally remove bodily autonomy from a baby/child, and are culturally/religiously done for reasons that ultimately or directly arise from a very paternalistic and authoritarian approach to children as property of parents, and intending to diminish and control their sexual characteristics without consent.

          … But if you don’t wanna have this discussion, feel free to block me, or just… not discuss… this…?

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            4 months ago

            I will block you because this is tedious, but know that I will always discuss this and never let it go uncommented on because it’s unhinged. While you supposedly don’t make this your entire personality there were those on Reddit who definitely did, and you smell just like them. I will never stop speaking out that this whole thing is a bullshit non issue.

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              I will always discuss this and never let it go uncommented on

              I dunno, sounds like the one who’s made it their whole personality might not be spectral here.

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              4 months ago

              Why would you come to a thread about circumcision, read the comments about circumcision, and leave a comment about being fed up of circumcision discussions if you were tired of talking about circumcision? And then block a guy who replies to your comment in a reasonable and ration manner because he reminds you of someone on a different website.

              If anyone’s “unhinged” here it’s the guy who doesn’t just move on to the next thread.

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                4 months ago

                Nope, see something say something. I do the same thing with racism or fascism. I call it out.

                I’m not fed up of circumcision discussions, I’m fed up with people who feel like they’ve been wronged as a result of the procedure. I’d never heard of such a thing before finding Reddit.

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                  3 months ago

                  I do the same thing with racism or fascism. I call it out.

                  • Dehumanizing people based on their skin colour
                  • Subjugating people for your own power and control
                  • Posting comments saying people shouldn’t chop the end of babies’ dicks off

                  One of those things is not like the others. Like, at all.

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                4 months ago

                I never said I was tired of the conversation. I’m tired of people like the ones I left on Reddit who always bring up circumcision and want to act like they’ve been horribly victimized because their parents followed a medical doctor’s advice.

                It’s pathetic. Some of them even mention suing their parents. This seems like a mental disorder. I don’t like it and if I see it, I will say something about it. If you don’t like that, perhaps you should block me instead of writing a reply I’d never have looked at if only Lenny gave me that option.