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  • Poultry farming is an industry where terms mean nothing. It is rife with horribly misleading terms that are completely unregulated or have weak definitions that are unenforced. This is not as uprising when you see it through that lens. It’s a continuation of existing absurdity that are less talked about

    For instance, “free-range” doesn’t actually have to mean being outdoors at all

    Bringing up a Tyson competitor, the farm manager wonders how other poultry companies handle supposedly free-range-raised chickens. The short answer: They don’t, really.

    “Those birds don’t go outside — you know that,” the technician replies. “They don’t all go out … Look that up online.”

    The manager chimes in: “It’s not like they make it like all of ’em come out and enjoy the sun.”

    “That is strictly for commercial [advertising] purposes,” the technician says.

    […]

    In 2017, the Intercept reported an investigation into a dozen California farms owned by a free-range chicken company that found no evidence of any animals spending any time outdoors. The chief animal care officer for Perdue Farms, a major chicken producer, has even said the vast majority of its free-range chickens stay indoors.

    https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/23724740/tyson-chicken-free-range-humanewashing-investigation-animal-cruelty


    Also as a note, the ruling on this case was from last year

    EDIT: to clarify by “the case”, I mean the original article my comment is replying to




  • The US government uses taxes to buy up dairy and meat that was not purchased based on demand, nullifying individual vegan boycotts and artificially propping up those industries.

    That’s taking a really short term view of it. As demand has stayed low enough for long enough, they have cut back on the amount and paid dairy farmers to not operate. These kinds of programs can only prop something up for so long

    but instead has found the greatest successes from lobbying governments to pass animal welfare laws and organizing protests to generate pressure and support for those laws

    Animal welfare laws do not fix the fundamental issue with these systems. As long as the industry exists in a large scale capacity, it will find the cruelest ways to operate. As long as meat, dairy, etc. are consumed in mass, factory farming will exist

    For instance, US beef consumption cannot be supplied by a pasture-based system. There is only enough land to support 27% of the consumption, and that still raises methane emissions by 8% so we would need to be consuming even less if we wanted to avoid emission reductions from a move like that

    Various laws and larger action can be effective though. Like putting plant-based options by default has been tested in some places, has substantially reduced demand and still kept satisfaction high. Or things like prohibiting the production of Fur, Foie Gras, etc.











  • I’m not 100% sure he means from their redactions? I think the law only allows senators access to the files, so he might be meaning senators / senator staff releasing it after getting it then redacting victim names?

    In either case, doing this still keeps it in the news which hurts Trump. Senate Dems can and should keep doing everything like this instead of Schumer’s previous strategy of stuff like caving on the CR for no reason. This is notable improvement from senate dems even compared to recently

    Especially because house dems have shown more fight. They were far more aggressive in trying to force votes on releasing the files which lead to Republicans just shutting down the house instead of voting on it. Which both works to show Republicans are complicit and stops them from pushing through worse bills for an extra few weeks. Senate dems tried a couple of unanimous consent votes, but didn’t see it quite to the level of house dems forcing amendment votes in every committee on damn near everything



  • Maybe the EU will pass some legislation that will carry over to the US

    GDPR requires the right to have your data deleted at least, but a lot of companies will only allow that if you are within the EU (because of profit and spite, I suppose). Though some just allowed it for everyone instead

    Similar for California Consumer Privacy Act where a lot of companies will only let you do the stuff it requires if you are within California

    Sort of like the “unsubscribe” button you get at the bottom of some emails. Did they have to pass a law to get that enacted?

    Yes, see the CAN-SPAM Act of 2003




  • If headlines can’t even mention the battery cages this lawsuit is actually about at all, what are we doing here? Battery cages are horrifying and just the tip of cutlery

    If the industry ever tells you that they treat anyone “humanely” remember that they are arguing to remove the smallest sliver of requirements. There is still a massive amount of cruelty allowed in other areas too (for instance chick culling, forced molting, etc.) and they are still angry on any requirement

    There also has already been a lawsuit on other provisions in Prop 12 that went up to this current SCOTUS in 2023 and was rejected.

    This almost certainly isn’t even actually about the cost of this particular law to the industry. The latest cost changes are almost all driven by bird flu. No, the thing they fear far more than a tiny increase in their costs is that we’ll actually start waking up to this industry. They worry Prop 12 will inspire more action. The more we talk about how things actually look, the more they worry that they’ll become like the fur industry where people wake up and stop buying en masse over its cruelty





  • Leagues already had rules on their own without the government getting involved. Now instead it’s outright bans being enforced by the state. The largest and loudest voices pushing for the government to do this have openly said they are doing this to attack trans rights in other areas. It’s not about sports


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    Plus beef is a large emitter to climate change. They’ve spread tons of disinformation on this to keep its consumption and production up. The industry is reaping what they’ve sowed

    The US beef industry is creating an army of influencers and citizen activists to help amplify a message that will be key to its future success: that you shouldn’t be too worried about the growing attention around the environmental impacts of its production.

    In particular, it would like you not to be especially concerned about how meat consumption needs to be reduced if we are to avoid the most violently disruptive forms of planetary heating (even if all fossil fuel use ended tomorrow).

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/may/03/beef-industry-public-relations-messaging-machine