Semi related but it’s actually so irritating how I have to go through life where my value as a human being is decided by how much money I make, how many girls I get, how successful I am when I could not care less about any of that, but I will get judged severely for it if anyone “finds out” that I’m not successful in… things I don’t care about…

Like why is that my value to people? I don’t want to have kids with you, you don’t have to live my life, if it’s fun and rewarding being around me why is that not enough? It seeps in even to progressive speech where people will say “clearly he gets no women” like that decides their value as a person. Very cringe. Also don’t forget to downvote for minimizing male loneliness as men can’t get women for the 9999th time.

I forgot to reply but thanks for that perspective, it is valuable to see other societies and their culture, but we probably want to swap out airplanes for electric trains in that case.

Yes, they are, but I can still call someone a bad parent if they have a kid knowing they will have no time to raise them. I can simultaneously believe they are at fault for not raising their kids, and that society should do more for kids…

me having kids knowing I will not have time to raise them but it’s somehow everyone else’s fault?

I kinda agree but for me and I think almost all of my friends it’s the opposite. It feels like they’re making the house “fake clean” like we’re not just hanging out and this is some big event for me to be over. It’s like how it would be weird to make your bed before your brother walks into the room, you’re not trying to impress anyone that’s just your room.

I agree people are not allowed to talk about things other people say are important, and if they do they are obsessed or irrational.

You know them better than I do but this is probably something I would’ve done when I was younger to be like “look I’m giving an unexpected answer!” and then as it plays out be like “oh god I ruined the conversation.” If that’s the case they will never do it again and feel unbelievably cringe lol.

Uhh? I don’t agree with them that it’s that big of a deal but he did a lot more than being an idiot, he tried (and almost succeeded) to kill a petition that many people dedicated months of their life to because he’s a narcissist who refuses to change his opinion, and he would very clearly do it again if given the chance. I would say pitchforks are justified.

Aren’t airplane flights and cars and just waste in general bigger contributors? I’m all for more people going vegan but I remember a carbon footprint analysis saying some of the worst contributors were planes cars waste and then food. Having a kid was the biggest contributor but that’s a bit obvious.

Not false at all but a big part imo is also learned, it’s like if I have 10 problems, 5 of which are totally my fault, and the only one talking about the other 5 says “ALL your problems are not your fault.”

It’s like one person actually fully reflected their experiences back to them, but then peddled a ton of lies along with it.

I think any vegan who is at least somewhat sane would say squishing an ant is not the same as killing a cow, because one is clearly more sentient and capable of experiencing suffering than the other. Obviously you don’t want to do either of them, and yes overpopulation and food waste causes us to kill enormous amounts of insects and wildlife. But I also don’t advocate for increasing the human population and try to waste absolutely 0 food because I know the impact it has. Buying food locally from non-factory farms is also much better, vegan or not.

It’s also true that animals consume and require MUCH more resources than just eating the plants ourselves, so even under that framing we are still doing significantly more harm because now we have to grow extra food, have space for these animals, and deal with the extra emissions from feeding/giving water/transport.

I absolutely can’t support myself nor anyone else with some backyard gardening, that’s definitely true. But with 2 people doing it in our leisure time, we reduced how often we have to buy any foods by about 40% by having ~8 fruit trees, 10 raised beds, and a freezer. Obviously this isn’t 0 harm because we do need a fence and sometimes have to trap and release some animals, but it is possible and not infeasable to feed a neighborhood by gardening like this, and it’s been done in many neighborhoods already.

You definitely can not exist without causing harm, and meat is not the ONLY negative thing to reduce, it’s just the most obvious and requires the least amount of legislature to actually reduce the harm from it. If we had a much smaller amount of cows that only ate the waste, that were humanely slaughtered, I think most vegans still be sad about it but not be nearly as upset, and meat would be a special thing rather than a staple.

I’m pretty sure a lot of people legitimately do not see fish as more than objects, and I mean they never fully made the connection not that they do it intentionally.

I agree! so we should try to get locally grown food without pesticides and then people can stop coping. Somehow my family manages to grow food without it and if there’s a bug we just dust it off into the grass. People who freak out over a little bug or fruit that’s not totally perfect are actually part of the problem.

It’s pure cope to say “I can’t avoid causing suffering so me making a deliberate choice to cause MORE suffering to animals that are the same intelligence as my dog is actually fine.”

Lol that’s hella awesome

I agree with you, but if you look at the video he’s not pointing it down holding it weakly, he’s got it pointed slightly below waist level basically ready to fire. It seems like he’s not ABOUT to fire, but he’s in a combat stance with the rifle and his hand position being ready and shooting in less than a second. If you hadn’t been looking at him the whole time I could easily see someone thinking he had just raised his weapon and was about to shoot.

Would you say they provide value to your life overall? Is it at least interesting to deal with it? Or does it just ruin your day? If its the latter then yeah that’s enough of a reason. If you care enough I would ask them to at least stop acting like what they’re doing is okay, a lot of people just need a kick to realize they’re driving away actual good friends. Otherwise yeah totally fine to just say I don’t want to deal with this anymore.

I just figure if I do have kids, there are very few things that will be better than I have now. It’s not really fear just I don’t want my kids to live through the worst weather/shortages/pollution ever + companies being better than ever at trying to manipulate people and suck their life away.

As a legitimate question what do I do if someone else is like this? Being around that makes me feel sad because I don’t feel trusted and like they think I’m dangerous, I don’t want to try and force it or anything, and fully understand why they are that way, it’s just I really don’t like feeling like “you are dangerous.”

Yeah it’s definitely testosterone :/ just pure monkey brain neuron activated, there’s not really any thoughts besides “I am so unbelievably in love with them” until you’re snapped back to reality…

Unless you’re generating actual random noise with an AI image generator, it’s almost like buying a fence’s stolen goods, since it is mainly just copying and merging rather than creating. It’s the same thing as piracy, if you do it and then support the crestor no one should mind, but the creator for AI art is everyone it stole from. If I pay for the generation it’s also saying to them “please steal more artwork, it is profitable.”

The bigger issue is someone who might have commissioned an artist instead uses an AI version of their art because it’s close enough to the exact style they wanted, so now their artwork was stolen, and the AIs only source for actual good art is less likely to be in the art business. The photographer or artist whose art they would’ve used or gotten flak for not sourcing is still stolen in the case of AI generation, but now it’s stolen from 200 people so there’s no obvious thing to point to besides maybe a style or a palette. If you tell it to replicate an artist’s style, it’s very obvious that it is recreating parte of images it stole, it just becomes less obvious which parts are stolen as you change the prompt.