Up to the mod really, but I wouldn’t call that merely off topic

Ydi. Not the purpose of that comm

Ok basically your argument devolves to misrepresenting and trivializing why we took any admin actions. I think you’re being massively disingenuous and not worth it discussing with at this point, but I’ll repeat, if our instance members think we’re as hypocritical as you do, they’re welcome to open the relevant governance posts and reign us in. It won’t happen, cause we aren’t of course.

Anyway I won’t bother with this thread anymore. I have no patience for people who misrepresent the facts quite that much just to win internet arguments.

Lol. Disengage.

You literally jumped into this very discussion I was having with someone else. I saw you elsewhere just piping up out of the blue just to shit on our instance, don’t try to play the victim here that’s you’re just minding your own and bad people keep hounding you.

Stop shitstirring if you don’t want to be splattered with shit.

Sorry, but thr only one lying and twisting the truth has always been yourself.

So your suggest is that I just act by fiat against the other mods?

I don’t know mate, I feel like your issues would be resolved if you didn’t go in random threads and start badmouthing our instance as a whole and then complain the our users try to defend it.

What’s your superior alternative?

Why yes, we do tolerate people badmouthing Ada, dessalines, nutomic, and even our own admins. Hell I’ve personally tolerated dozens of angry hexbears trying to bully myself in my own thread in my own comm. We do indeed walk the walk.

There’s no “tribalism” here, no matter how much you keep repeating it. In all honestly it reads to me you’re more upset people are not sufficiently polite in disagreement. Anarchists can and will be rude, especially towards people like PJ routinely but politely calling them “nazis” for not engaging in the electoralism farce. Nobody is under any onus to remain polite to spare your feelings, nor does this make is a “tribe” because we tend to attract anarchists who feel the same way about liberals.

Fuck I don’t even know at this point what your problem even is, that we attract like-minded people in our instance? We don’t want to be lemmy.world for a reason and if you want that, well lemmy.world already exists.

Seriously, We’re not going to go around policing people for rudeness. This is absurd and will not work whatsoever.

Clearly, it’s not “obvious” at all. Again, we anarchists tend to prefer democracy over dictatorship.

You’d prefer that one person decide by fiat what’s OK or not? I don’t know about you but I find democracy superior to dictatorship, even when nominally “benevolent” .

Anyone solid in our instance can request an admin recall with a vote

We’ve never banned people because they reported mod abuse from our own team. If people have been instance banned we would even allow others to open a yptb post on their behalf and I would personally even allow an alt.

This is not idle talk either, we’ve done this already.

So you keep saying. I don’t just think that, I know that. And given that it’s very easy for people to call us out on it officially and yet nobody seems to want to, I’m fairly confident we’ve taken the right decision. Unlike other instances, we welcome criticism of admin actions as we don’t think we’re infallible.

Why, yes s it is bad faith to misrepresent the cause of the mod action and then double down on it.

In any case, feel free to open a yptb post if you’re do certain our cause was trivial.

I’ve self reflected and discovered I’ve done nothing wrong

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Not sure which thread you mean, but If you think people expressing their low opinions about someone is “bullying”, then, well you haven’t experienced bullying. And also, what the hell do you expect of dbzer0 admins to do about people expressing such opinions? You want us to go around protecting the people you like from public opinion? Like, this is a legit absurd argument path.

Those aren’t the only two options lol. I’m just saying that “Our users/tribe love that we always take the side of our users/tribe no matter the facts of the situation!”

It’s easy to look right when fighting against strawmen.

People say this stuff and then claim that we’re doing bad faith takes. Go figure.

We really don’t use votes for yptb. We have specific keywords if one wants to tally. Likewise actual voting happens in our governance comm, and our actual users seem to be onboard with what we’ve been doing consistently

Sure, buddy.

Honestly, I think calling what’s ongoing “bullying” is kinda strange. If anything we wanted to cool the situation down.

This was pretty much my point. lemmy.ml and Hexbear love how their admins behave, and that’s all the admins feel like they need to know. My point was that (a) you’re starting to operate along the same lines, it looks like, and (b) that’s not always a good thing.

I would rather show me which admins are more centered on what every rando on the internet thinks. Then I can point you to someone about to have a burnout.