vs a nebulous argument towards the impact of moral decision making on profitability.
No, its that vs the clearly expected consumer response, which has a permanent brand impact and a short term subscriber/vacationer/etc impact, not to mention the 2% drop in stocks (an over $4b impact).
Ignoring ethics, this was a bad business decision. The long term impact is obviously not yet known, but the short term impact was rapid and strong.
@Teknevra@lemmy.blahaj.zone sorry if this was a complete derail, feel free to ask me to delete or to report for mods to pull.
I’m admittedly cranky tonight as two different friends in two different states specifically told me about things from over the weekend that have me scared for them, and this “purity test” crap is driving me nuts.
So again, sorry if I derailed things, let me know.
Look at what they do, not what they say.
I’m going to need to end this conversation, because holy fuck JUST LOOK AROUND.
Emboldened hatemongers, mirroring the progression of Nazis, people who are terrified for their lives because the hard right administration is putting a target on them…
But yeah “left and right is meaningless”.
I’m not interest in this as some sort of scholastic debate. Real people are at risk and you want to try and insinuate there is no difference between Harris and Trump???
I don’t have the capacity tonight to put up with this kind of nonsense.
Enjoy your day.
Disney management has a fiduciary responsibility they cannot ignore.
Sorry, but this is a complete misunderstanding of how this works.
Recognizing that pulling Kimmel’s show would result in severe harm to the brand, short term and long term, matches that responsibility as well. Shareholders can even make the decision to claim the board (and specifically Iger) were in violation of their duties with this decision. The blowback was obvious and expected.
They absolutely are at fault.
There isn’t much to it. Its up here:
Thats… Just fucking devastating.
I hate this. I hate this so much.
That is what is called “pushing to the left”.
Not when those further left lose to the right. Not when not being perfectly whatever isn’t good enough to get voted for.
Pushing for more left policy after defeating the right wing is a move to the left. A loss to the right doesnt move a single needle anywhere left.
How is “this person actively harms trans people under the slightest pressure” a “win” for trans people?
Compared to being afraid and leaving their home of over a decade, only to still be afraid and now desperate to find a way out of the country?
Yeah, to me that would have been a win.
Instead we have this bullshit.
Oh, I see.
She’s at fault for long standing policies created before she got into a position that still couldn’t change those policies, which she worked to change by discussing with those who could so others didnt have to have the same experience.
My mistake. Thanks for clarifying.
Edit: for the record, I find it frustrating that we can’t move to the left at all because its never enough for some people. There is always some purity test being failed, always some perfection that must somehow magically be achieved.
And then I end up with friends and family fearing for their lives here because the right is fine with a little at a time towards fascism, but everything on the left is divided into their little camps of absolutist approach to everything.
Its so damn frustrating. Ffs get every win you can, even the little ones.
Just so I make sure I understand, is this about the CA DOC policies that were being enforced? Because iirc, those were not her policies, but were her job to enforce at direction, and not something there was discretion with. And then worked to change that policy with the DOC. Was there something else?
Sweet milky cheeses
“America did it and we have ‘antifa cells’ interrupting meetings here”?
Is ignorance and stupidity contagious? It feels that way. I hope the rest of the world quarantines us for their own safety.
The only thing about it now is how hard he is falling against releasing anything - which makes it seem like there is enough to really cause problems.
And I get it on some posts, its pretty excessive to bring up in some situations.
A comment I made elsewhere about people bringing up Epstein:
Just something to think about here - republicans all seem pretty gung-ho on the fascism, and they have control of everything right now. Do you think pointing it out will change republican minds? Those in office and those who are the voters backing them up.
Personally, I don’t see that happening. You’ll get some halfhearted dissent here and there, but I think thats mostly cover.
So, what would cause a major split or shift? I think solid confirmation of Trump making use of Epstein’s ‘services’ could do that. Maybe it won’t, I can’t predict the future (obviously). It seems much more likely than pointing out how rights are being stripped away (again and again), because they haven’t cared about our rights yet.
That doesn’t mean I think we should ignore what’s happening, just that I think there is substantial value in making sure the Epstein files don’t just disappear. If there wasn’t, I don’t think they would be trying so hard to deflect/ignore/cover up anything related to it.
There are some people who tall about the economy, but let’s be honest there too - the wealthy will use a bad economy to buy things up, meanwhile the soybean farmers praying (literally) to Trump think he has some grand plan and this hurt is temporary.
Its the same with taking away peoples rights to be who they are, or to even speak about who they are - they agree with it because its hurting the people they want it to. They won’t see the hypocrisy.
If trump supporters can see Trump as a child abuser and liar, then maybe they’ll see he was lying about other things too. Maybe they’ll recognize that the people who were chest thumping about Epstein files that suddenly went quiet - the ones that fill up their Facebook feed and their alt right TV network - are also liars and manipulators.
Guaranteed? No. But a realistic approach thats gained traction.
Also fair
Though only in one country is this shenanigans:
https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/17/politics/antifa-terrorist-designation-trump
I don’t think this is a reference to a UK incident, but to Trump saying he wants Antifa considered a terrorist organization.
I think I know exactly the comment that inspired this post.
the article makes it clear this is suspected suicide but that the police / FBI are keeping open minds because of the obvious connotations.
Just so you know, the cops have said quite specifically they don’t think it was anything but suicide.
Its also a heavily racist area and no one should trust cops in the first place, making for a bad combo. Thats why the family will want an autopsy from someone independent of the police.
Just something to think about here - republicans all seem pretty gung-ho on the fascism, and they have control of everything right now. Do you think pointing it out will change republican minds? Those in office and those who are the voters backing them up.
Personally, I don’t see that happening. You’ll get some halfhearted dissent here and there, but I think thats mostly cover.
So, what would cause a major split or shift? I think solid confirmation of Trump making use of Epstein’s ‘services’ could do that. Maybe it won’t, I can’t predict the future (obviously). It seems much more likely than pointing out how rights are being stripped away (again and again), because they haven’t cared about our rights yet.
That doesn’t mean I think we should ignore what’s happening, just that I think there is substantial value in making sure the Epstein files don’t just disappear. If there wasn’t, I don’t think they would be trying so hard to deflect/ignore/cover up anything related to it.
No, you’ve got that wrong.
There will be plenty “originating” (at least on paper) from Israel, just not arriving (or not getting to anyone who needs it at least).
This is about boosting the economy.
Gender identity is constitutionally protected there! I wouldn’t have guessed it either, I found out about it when I was researching options on places to move.
For my lab its testing ideas. More often than not, it involved hardware outside the server. Cloud hosted is not an option for that, or playing with a variety of distributions, testing applications, etc.