Im from the Midwest but moved in my twenties. Rediscovering the Midwest when I travel home to visit has been great.

Last time I was there I ate my first mayapple. They just grow there and are a tasty fruit you cant buy in the store. Most locals haven’t even ate one because of it isnt in the grocery store it might as well not exist for most people.

Next up is a pawpaw. I can’t wait. I’ve already been watching tree identification guides.

That’s only logical. You should have become a taco expert instead.

Depending on the location, I’m pretty sure the norm is meat every day. In the Midwest, it’s not just meat every day. It’s meat every meal.

Fr tho why does no one do port knocking? I know its not a comprehensive solution but it’s a pretty cool component imo.

You may not know this but Columbia had departments that used to be one of the loudest voices against Palestinians genocide.

They were the home of Edward Said, a Palestinian American, who through sheer intellectual force changed an entire academic discipline, by pointing out the majority of Western “Orientialist” studies were nothing more than a thin veneer for racism.

Few people have done more for me intellectually. That’s what makes this such a tragedy. They were the backbone of a nuanced view on the middle east even very recently.

I got into an argument with pug like 3 days ago (over an admittedly hot take of mine, which he screenshotted and shared in the same community)

In came Phil to play the good cop but ultimately ended up being the exact same type of troll, as I interpreted it then. At least he had the exact same type of antagonistic bad faith interpretation of my words.

Good to know I’m not the only one to think something weird was going on with them. If they aren’t the same person, they sure share the same online schedule and biases a lot.

Long Jorge Soros!

I dont believe in American democracy and I don’t believe the present ruling class gives a damn about rules or laws. So I cant answer your bizarre hypothetical election question.

You need to be able to have a conversation with someone who disagrees with you without assuming they are all Nazi sympathizers. Kamala won my state, just FYI. There was 0 impact to your life from anything I did or did not due on election day.

Hey man. You were upset with me yesterday when I tried to have a conversation with you too. Really, a community and some fresh air will help.

We all agree shits bad. No one wants this. We are not the people who caused you harm.

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I also love hyperbole. I hope you don’t really think im saying you are simple minded or anything. I just wanted to have a conversation online, but forgot how difficult it was. Just speaking of my general experiences, im not saying all dems or all white people or anything.

In my mind, I don’t care about MLK or Malcolm X. I mean they are both fine, whatever… I don’t not care about them either. Its more about their ideas. In my mind, figuring out why the civil rights bill passed when it did is a very important question with implications about the proper means of political activism in modern day America. As in what was the immediate precursor, what was the “tipping point.”

The narrative I was told growing up and in school simply didnt align with the series of events Malcolm described. I assumed other people might find that interesting too, but instead I think I remembered why I don’t engage online.

You are the only one who gave a reasonable reply that showed you actually somewhat read it. But I guess I don’t really know how to succinctly say and get to that point so I pissed you off too. So my bad. Ill stop before I make it worse and go back to my corner before I was screenshotted and shared in this community.

Don’t worry. We all have to resist in the way we understand best.

OP seems to think fascist racists actually care about laws and will respect the outcomes of our voting which is his right. Its just unfortunate he cant see that people fighting the system in other ways may actually be useful too.

Wow that’s a creative take on my thoughts. I just hadn’t got to talk to anyone normal about this and didn’t realize it work be taken that way. So my apologies I guess. Didn’t mean to tar your hero or anything. I guess thats definitely one logical way to read that though. I can’t fault you for reaching that conclusion.

Thanks engaging with me, genuinely.

I actually studied this era and movement at the masters level and wrote papers related to the topic. Lol.

Im not shitting on MLK as much as I am quoting Malcolm X. Everyone (not you, just generally speaking) always acts like black people are a monolith and always agree about who is a good guy or that to be black and disagree with the DNC or MLK makes you an republican or an uncle tom and thats it. There are actually critiques of MLK and DNC from the far left too.

I feel like it was interesting that this perspective was completely lost to history. If it means people think im an idiot but learn more about what actually happened thats fine me.

Thank you for engaging with the substance of the argument! Personally I think you probably need both. If there is no unhinged element it doesn’t make the nonviolent one seem that threatening, but honestly I go back and forth.

I did find it fascinating that contemporaries of MLK has such disparaging views of him.

I also think Malcolm was probably killed by the government or at least the government used the Nation of Islam against him, but i freely admit that is somewhat conspiratorial and we won’t know, at least until all the files are released.

For crying out loud. Read or listen to the speech. It is such a simple argument I assumed someone who is into history would understand it by now.

His argument is there is no such thing as a nonviolent revolution. He directly links the violent protests in several towns to the passage of the civil rights bill. I have no idea where you are getting overthrowing congress.

So if you disagree with that can you tell me why the civil rights act was passed when it was passed. There is no gotcha or anything here. Im genuinely curious your reasoning.

If you read it you would know thats not the kind of action Malcolm was advocating.

revolution is bloody

Did you even read what Malcolm X said?

He lays out a clear record of why the civil rights bill was actually passed. I can look up the newspaper headlines showing MLK and other civil rights leaders were busy arguing and fundraising when grassroots leaders were inciting people and it was at that time when Kennedy announced the bill. I That is the exact kind of action MLK would have never endorsed and that is why he was the enemy according to Malcolm. That is the substance of his argument.

Do you care to engage with it or not?

So you think Kennedy just magically out of the goodness of his heart passed the civil rights bill. Why did that happen your account. Malcolm lays out a clear logical reason. You have yet to engage with the substance of his argument.

So what about how first hand account where he mentions having the corresponding newspaper clippings is without merit?