It has extensive text chat

Ah, so hexbear will only see piefed.social user interactions from mutually federated servers?

I can’t see a single post on television@piefed.social as seen from hexbear.

If you want to make a comprehensive chatroom, and specify how it works to minor details - Revolt (for instance) is far behind. If what Discord is doesn’t appeal to you in the first place, then neither would any of the Discord alternatives.

Yeah, and in terms of usability Discord alternatives are really quite substantially behind Discord in terms of functions.

I don’t think the same is with Reddit and Lemmy/Piefed. The distance is not so vast.

This seems like a subreddit rule. Has Reddit ever ruled specifically for or against this?

To be fair, minnix.dev seems like a very marginal instance.

Both seem up for me.

Imo the community moderators completely chickened out. All of them who took part in the boycott should’ve all left when Reddit didn’t budge. Yeah, a few did - and got their mod teams replaced, but imagine if Reddit had to replace entire subreddit teams for hundreds, thousands of well-used subreddits? It would’ve been chaos as they would’ve had no meaningful way to determine who would be good fits or not.

Did something happen to lemmy.world?

I thought Kbin (I used kbin first) was okay but really overturned with too much going on and no real reason to use it.

Widespread instance blocking? I only know of a handful of instances often blocked.

Piefed has polls

Stalin murdered a lot of other communists in 1937.

It’s funny because for new low-traffic communities now, Reddit is worse than the Fediverse in my opinion. The Fediverse has an effective catalog on every instance, you can search instances, you can rename your community to be more visible (you can’t do this on reddit). I would also suggest you look into Piefed, which has even more tools here.

I care about that far less than I care about not having every vote I cast recorded forever by anyone subscribed to the fediverse feed.

Well I think there’s a good argument that account vote history should disappear after X months anyway, as after that long it becomes worthless anyway. Which is how Piefed currently works by the way.

At the end of the day, brigading is mostly an ego thing anyway. If you just stop caring about votes then they can’t hurt you.

It’s not though. Brigading or just a small number of committed chronic downvoters can throttle the spread of a post. Downvote trolls can be a problem for small communities trying to build up as they can successfully bury threads. I managed to discover the serial downvoters on my old lemm.ee community and when I banned them (about 5 of them?) it had a huge impact. They didn’t all downvote /everything/ but they downvoted a lot of things, and they had no contribution to their names. Some of the accounts in question literally had no posting history. These accounts just existed to downvote.

Having votes be public doesn’t actually fix the astroturfing problem anyway since it’s still possible to just create sockpuppet accounts anyway.

Which are all visible publicly and can get banned, and in this case, get instance banned - not just community banned. It doesn’t stop it from ever happening, but it’s more likely you will get banned for that behaviour.

But sure I’ll bite: so what if someone did that though - if that was their choice, then stupid as it might be, and regardless of how it may leave no content leftover after the downvote brigades got through with their efforts, but even so, if someone CHOSE that for themselves, then you have not explained why they should be prevented from screwing themselves over in that manner?

Oh, no I haven’t said people should be prevented from downvoting. It’s simply that on Lemmy, because you can be held accountable (righly or wrongly) by community mods for how you downvote on their community, that it mitigates compulsive downvoting.

Yeah, look at this. This is from r/television, sorted by new.

https://i.imgur.com/3pWsxw1.png

Look at the scores of EVERYTHING. Most stuff on there that doesn’t soar (because its a notable news piece) gets heavily downvoted right out of the gate. I’m not saying all of those threads are great and deserve ++ upvotes, but you just never see this sort of thing at scale on Lemmy - and this is due to public voting practices.

I disagree. That some community owners are petty about it doesn’t mean that it doesn’t cultivate a wider high-trust community.

Americans arent exactly in a great position to judge right now.