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  • In a proper zero knowledge proof situation, where you auth it locally, no one knows you accessed the site but the site (who knows your IP) and they don’t know who you are based on the proof. Doing it all locally is the best way to do it.

    In a less ideal set up, where the Auth is split between you and the identity provider, the identity provider would learn how many people are accessing the site, but not who. (Edit: they could also learn that you requested an auth, but not for where, depending on how it’s set up)

    We have the technology to do it if we wanted to.

    Edit: and it really only works with biometrics since pins can be shared.



  • Ehhhhh I’m not sure that’s accurate.

    Elon is doing what Elon wants and they have tried to talk him down (or at least Robyn and his brother have), but that’s as far as they’re willing to go. (Edit: I guess I should add, tried to talk him down/warn him about it being so public. Maybe they don’t care and fully agree if it wasn’t public)

    They don’t want him to, but they also won’t stop him.

    The outcome is the same, the board is useless.


  • They could also easily wind down some of their very high capital expenditures to last even longer. It’d mean slowing their growth and shelving some new ideas, things we probably haven’t even seen, but that would dramatically change their balance sheet.

    Doing that isn’t good for the long term though, it would just cause a stagnation loop leading to further scaling back, but as a temporary measure if cash preservation was important enough, it is an option worth tens of billions over multi year time frame.

    Edit: and by slowing growth I don’t mean their car sales are declining so that’s not growth, I mean maybe investing less in the AI super computer they are building, or not building a 2nd lithium refinery right away even if the 1st one works out as planned. The kind of things that are good for the future of the company, but you can’t just throw money at when things might turn dire and you need to hang onto that cash for security.



  • You gotta remember we’re also back in 2019. Most of the talk back then was about what it was going to be able to do when FSD was ready, but no one got access to it until 2020 and that was a very small invite only group, and it lasted like that for years. I’d say the potential for confusion today is immensely more.

    I have used AP back then, and it was good, but it clearly made lots of little mistakes, and needed constant little adjustments. If you were paying attention, they were all easy to manage and you even got to know when to expect problems and take corrective action in advance.

    My \ the big beef with this case, is that he kept his food on the accelerator, and the car tells you while you do this, that it won’t brake, and having your foot on the accelerator is a common practice, as AP can be slow to start, or you need to pass someone etc, so it’s really unfathomable to think that the first time this guy ever did this, was when he decided to try and pick up his dropped phone, and thought, I should keep my foot on the accelerator while doing this! No amount of marketing, should be able to override “Autopilot will not brake. Accelerator pedal pressed” type active warnings with the screen pulsating some color at him. He knew about those warnings, without any doubt in my mind. He chose to ignore them. What more could you write in a small space to warn people it will not brake?

    That being said - The NHSTA has found that Tesla’s monitoring system was lacking, and Tesla has had to improve on that because of that in recent times. People would attach oranges to the steering wheel to defeat the nag to pay attention type thing back then, but this goes well beyond that IMO. Even the current system won’t immediately shut down if you decided to not pay attention for some reason, it would take time before it pulls itself over, but you might get a strike against future use where it will prevent you from using it again.

    Had his foot not been on the accelerator, this would have been a very different case had the accident still occurred (which is also still possible)


  • … that’s why you do a follow up interview and review their code, and maybe leave some things a little ambiguous to see if they ask you questions (telling them it’s okay to email questions and mostly expected)

    Why did you decide to do ABC this way? What do you think about having done it XYZ way instead?

    I know you didn’t have time to write a full test suite, but what areas of what you wrote would be best to focus on tests and why?

    You can ask them so many things about what they wrote.

    That’s like… how it works in the real world. They ask questions to product as they come up, they get questioned on their work in code reviews

    Unless you work somewhere where you pair code 100% of the time anyway…

    If you just look at it as a pass or fail and are not doing a detailed review with them after, you’re doing it wrong.


  • Sure, the fine print might have said having your foot on the gas would shut down autopilot

    The car tells you it won’t brake WHILE you do it.

    This isn’t a fine print thing, it’s an active warning that you are overriding it. You must be able to override it, its a critical saftey feature. You have to be able to override it to avoid any potential mistake it makes (critical or not). While a Level 2 system is active, human input > level 2 input.

    It’s there every time you do it. It might have looked a little different in 2019, but as an example from the internet.

    (edit: clarity + overriding with the accelerator is also explained to every user before they can enable autopilot in an on screen tutorial of basic functionality)



  • Just a further follow up - you actually can appeal that the jury was just outright wrong, but that would be an really hard impossible case to win here, i doubt thats what they would try. But just as an FYI

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/judgment_notwithstanding_the_verdict_(jnov)

    A judgment notwithstanding the verdict (JNOV) is a judgment by the trial judge after a jury has issued a verdict, setting aside the jury’s verdict and entering a judgment in favor of the losing party without a new trial. A JNOV is very similar to a directed verdict except for the timing within a trial. A judge will issue a JNOV if he or she determines that no reasonable jury could have reached the jury’s verdict based on the evidence presented at trial, or if the jury incorrectly applied the law in reaching its verdict.

    edit: Added emphasis there as well, which they could maybe try I guess given their error of law comment.


  • Well, their lawyers stated “We plan to appeal given the substantial errors of law and irregularities at trial”

    They can also appeal the actual awards separately as being disproportionate. The amount is pretty ridiculous given the circumstances even if the guilty verdict stands.

    There was some racial discrimination suit Tesla lost, and the guy was awarded 137 million. Tesla appealed the amount and got it reduced to 15 million. The guy rejected the 15 million and wanted a retrial on the award, and then got 3.2 million.