

Thanks I’ll have to try them both then it seems
Thanks I’ll have to try them both then it seems
I estimated that to translate ProleWiki from English to 5 languages (the API charges per input tokens and output tokens, i.e. what you feed it -> english content and what it outputs -> translated content) it would cost us maximum 50$ with deepseek API. ChatGPT is so expensive I didn’t even try, it was going to be in the hundreds of dollars lol. The output per 1M with deepseek is 50 cents in the off-hours (easy, just run your code during the off-hours automatically) and gpt’s is 1.6$ for their “mini” model, which is still 3x as expensive.
There are other chinese models coming along, I think xiaomi is making one. They’re also innovating in image and video generation models but for text models. One of them that came out shortly after deepseek is the one that someone said was too cheap to meter (because it literally uses so little resources to run that it makes no sense to even keep track of usage!), but I haven’t heard more about it since.
just reasoning alone almost destroyed the western AI industry overnight. They scrambled to make their own reasoning models in less than a week but it changed everything
It seems you can run a deepseek model very well with a ~400$ GPU. It’s not cheap, but it’s very accessible compared to having 6 gtx 4080s (1500 each) to reach 92gb Vram. Most motherboards will also handle two gpus, so you can get a second of the same later to double your Vram.
It’s not gonna be the full model like in this video but it’s still advanced enough for some tasks apparently. Instead of the 792b model you’ll get like 32 billion parameters (quantized), or 8b parameters in the unquantized.
Actually I tried with my 2019 GPU and I could run a model, it was a bit slow but nothing major. But it was not a huge model either, and you’re also limited in context size for bigger tasks. I think deepseek especially because it’s so efficient is much easier to run. Even the full deepseek model only takes up less than a terabyte of space - of course it’s a lot in absolute numbers, but it’s pretty much what any SSD comes with nowadays (and an HDD that size costs almost nothing now).
The API access is like 50 cents per 1m tokens (so about 1m words) you put into it in the off-hours too. It’s so, so cheap soon api access will probably be too cheap to even keep track of and we’ll see entirely free cloud models.
btw do you recommend running a quantized higher-parameter model (locally) or lower-parameter but not quantized, if I had to pick between the two?
They cannot take money first of all. None.
Secondly they must teach and encourage people to organize. No idea has ever come about from the loneliness of one’s own room.
My litmus test for impactful ‘content’ is if I remember it a week later. Sometimes I do, a lot of the time I don’t.
I need to upload theory in my native tongue so I can read it on the new prolewiki reading mode and get back into it lol. But a lot of what I come to comes from struggling about an issue with others. The correct line is created collectively. Watching or even reading someone preaching about their point of view is not theory, and you see this especially on twitter because of the character limit. “Um actually this is bad” like okay, explain then? but they won’t. It makes it hard to know what to actually believe and trust.
Struggle sessions are not dogpiles, they’re for finding truth from facts.
It’s called sovietology and it’s a very serious field of research sweaty 🤓
I said a few days ago that his story was not going to end well. This is only the beginning if he keeps going down this path, and will pale in comparison of what is to come later in his life.
What is he even doing this for? It’s not for his own values of right and wrong, there’s something deeper there. He’s been in court several times already at 26, but he’s not a Calla Walsh or anyone based like that. His entire life is just having twitter fights and then getting into trouble over it, he doesn’t even make a living from this ‘activism’. It’s not even actual activism where you try to get people to join in, he does it by himself for the clicks. Yeah sure man the evil CCP will collapse because you held a placard in front of the consulate…
I mean turning a 1000 dollar fine into 23 thousand and jail time for contempt of court for ‘protesting’ something that happened over 40 years ago, even if you believe it’s the right thing to do… completely delusional. But that’s not new, he keeps calling Jewish people k*pos despite not being Jewish himself. And every time he defends it.
It is what it is. Maybe down the line something will happen and be a wake up call for him, or maybe he’ll just dig himself further this bottomless hole.
Oh yeah, I expected that they would basically be a dev kit and you have to code everything in yourself. I didn’t expect that it would be so manual though, I thought their basic function was that they could stand up and walk by themselves, but apparently you even have to code that in before you make it do more advanced stuff. Interested to see how it handles actual tasks (like even just picking up an object) later on hopefully.
edit: I assume since this is a dev kit they are expecting a market to pop up around these robots, probably even other companies rebranding them with their own name and selling them for specific purposes out of the box (e.g. chores)
25 kilos I’ll be real I’m flipping that thing over if it gets near me 😢
When I was a kid this is how we imagined war would be in the future. Instead of sending people you send mass-produced infantry robots. Except we never thought it would become real.
I def. think there will be novel usecases out of them, much like commercial drones have been. Nobody expected quadcopters to become so prevalent on the front and yet they did. To get an idea of how they could be used, imagine yourself as a soldier on the front line and you have one of these bots. What would you have it do? I think carry equipment is one (you could also get those robot dogs to do that, but it’s a possibility), maybe even give it some anti-drone equipment of some kind? These are basically vehicles that can follow you in any terrain. The size factor is also a huge point, you could send it to recon ahead while still retaining your entire team operable, or make a bunch of them dig your trenches before the infantry moves in. They can hide much better than any human could due to how small they are.
I don’t think you even need to wait for WW3, they’re gonna be rolled out as soon as the price goes down to under 2000 dollars.
I’m still not entirely sure how they perform tasks though, how much you need to manually program them to do that and reprogram them to do another thing. To be honest to this day I still haven’t found out anything about how they work, you usually just see the promo videos.
What I could really use one of those robots for is doing the chores around the house 😭
At least some of them appear to be AI, it’s tough to tell from the timelapse speed but pausing the video and manually scrubbing shows telltale signs. In the second video for example, cars park in front of this wall out of nowhere:
Then leave in some amorphous blob formation:
Just as a random nondescript vehicle transforms into reality out of nowhere and intersects with the wall:
In the video with the green roof, the camera actually rises vertically. Playing at full speed it seems like the buildings are sinking, but scrubbing through the video slower shows that the camera is actually moving up, not the buildings moving down.
Unfortunately this is the world we live in now…
non-editors can edit content pages or even create them now on ProleWiki (it just logs your IP), however you can’t upload pictures but you can use them if they’re already uploaded. I just need to get around to uploading a bunch of pictures about it on PW and then anyone will be able to add to the page. If you google ragwon county offshore farm a lot of information comes up so there’s plenty of sources to pick from.
Thank you! This went viral on twitter and I found the name of the project, it’s the ragwon offshore fishing farm. With this I was able to find more pictures, going to see about making a page for it on prolewiki
There’s a LOT more pictures on google but I won’t saturate the grad’s server with them lol
Personally I’ve been browsing Local for years so I can see all of lemmygrad. Rarely use All or federation.
what a next week huh? captain it’s saturday
leave paragliders to the pros Felix
There’s a huge difference between being a content creator and being a party. Not just one difference actually.
The online content creator will cater to making more money. The communist party, hopefully, will cater to existing and organizing.
It makes sense actually, and if they can’t provide it then maybe they shouldn’t do it. You’re not gonna live on your 3 patreon supporters paying you 3$ each, you need an actual critical mass of supporters to turn it into a job. So what’s the best way to get there? Start toeing the line to not getting banned from the platform (otherwise no money) and start diluting your politics so you have broader appeal. Start accepting a diluted community too, because they support you. And if they start asking you for custom content like talking about zohran mamdani because they like him then you’d be hard-pressed to refuse. Some will, some won’t. Some will find it hard to take the hard stance they want to take on mamdani because they might lose a supporter if they do.
The only way this can end is wanting to become a contrapoints of their own, making a half-baked video once a year while raking in thousands on patreon.
Every prolewiki editor does this without taking donations, so do Red Sails and USU.
If your livelihood is assured in a certain way then it’s in your interest to keep that certain way existing for as long as possible.