idk there’s plenty of legitimate criticism to lob at america’s gun fetishism but i just dont see the application here

The real deep state was the friends they made along the way.

Everyone is bighype about carcinization- crablike this, convergent evolutionary pressures that- nobody ever mentions arborification. Did you know that ‘trees’ evolved independently dozens of times? Trees and crabs, that’s what we’ll find on alien planets I tells ya.

this image makes me deeply uncomfortable

https://github.com/9001/copyparty

Damn that’s the exact joke I was gonna make

It’s the perpetual motion machine that laid the golden egg…

Jordies’ video essay even suggests it was jizzlane who got epstein into the honeypot trade, not the other way around.

Computer arts?

Yes.

Aight look hang on a second. We’re both humans. We’re both upset about the fact that children are being systematically raped, right? And that their abusers have not only escaped justice but are most probably in the position of administering “justice” themselves now, right? We’re on the same page as far as that goes, I’m pretty confident in saying.

So what are we actually arguing about? I think we might actually agree a lot more than either of us realize. I’m not saying this guy is innocent, hand him his halo. I’m saying the specific sketch being attributed to him in this particular instance is unearned. No snark, no heat, no smoke, no sarcasm: I’m just using my eyes looking at this video and I see a guy smiling and sharing a joke with a political rival that made a whole room laugh, not an attempt to lie about the vote. Like, even in the most uncharitable interpretation that he is a completely tactless moron who was literally trying to gavel the single no against a roomful of aye-witnesses including several from his own party: They laughed the attempt down. Honestly, the interaction is actually kind of wholesome like, literally I don’t think I’ve ever seen a more clear example of willing bipartisanship in years, maybe in my entire political lifetime, and that working apparently toward the investigation of the pedo files. The guy they’re maligning played a reluctant but willing part as far as I can tell in bringing this subpoena to life. He was clearly opposed to it but I managed to come away from that video with the impression that he was pleased with the way the entire situation unfolded anyway.

There’s a lot of stuff going on in this epstein story, and I’m just trying to say this “vote stealing lie” is a manufactured controversy not actually part of that epstein story, and that it’s a distraction from the actual legitimate story, and that people need to pay closer attention to their sources, thats it. Thank you for coming to my ted talk.

You ignorant wretch, im on your side. I’m not shitting on a chessboard, that twitter post was a fantasy made up for engagement and you fell for it and I’m telling you about it. We’re not playing chess. There are no pigeons. It’s the internet. People lie for attention. Can we please resume our focus on the actual story? It’s good that the epstein files are finally being taken seriously, but I have no faith in this government in any capacity to actually run this investigation due to corruption. The corrupt government is bad enough on its own. You don’t have to make up extra bullshit the shit they’re already actually doing is evil enough. Fuck off with your boring shit now please or actually dont this is the most human interaction I’ve had in months.

Hey, you’re right! That amendment got struck down! With all the back-and-forth in that video I must have lost track. Good check, thanks!

Look buddy, if you just insist on playing with the grandmasters running this story (specifically, the galaxy brains behind CALL TO ACTIVISM on X (formerly twitter) and exactly no other sources of any variety at all) but god and everyone will know I tried to help you out of this obvious fucking engagement bait you got tangled in your before I left off, so here let me google that shit for you you lazy arrogant projective ungrateful [insert generic unflattering adjective here]: Exactly 0 news outlets are running with the “the chair tried to pull a fast one while literally everyone was watching” angle. The only other source I was able to find was one other video repeating the claims (https://bsky.app/profile/davek67.bsky.social/post/3lurty2bcik27) with suspiciously similar claims and pacing and structure and with the same video source as the X “article” (read: casual plagiarism).

here is pbs news covering the vote with precisely no mention of a lie or stolen vote controversy or anything of the kind: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/house-subcommittee-votes-8-2-to-subpoena-justice-department-for-epstein-files

here is cbs news covering the vote with precisely no mention of a lie or stolen vote controversy or anything of the kind: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/house-committee-votes-to-subpoena-justice-department-for-epstein-files/

here is ap and you’ll never guess what their author and editors all forgot to include in their so-called “professional” reporting: https://apnews.com/article/epstein-files-congress-democrats-subpoena-republicans-trump-5d17ea83f7ffeff5784159848b97f38e

I could go on like this for some time but if you don’t get it by now you never will. Or, to put it in a metaphor you might more easily understand: at some point I have to stop predigesting your food for you and push you out of the nest or you’ll never fledge.

Buddy, you swallowed clickbait. Stop being stubborn and actually check your sources next time.

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lot easier to talk shit than actually say something that means anything huh. i think you said something about ‘effort’ a minute ago?

Difference between us? Both of us talkin shit, only one of us pointing to the video bringing receipts. “brick wall” he says turning to stone

I came up with the actual vote in question directly from congress. https://www.congress.gov/event/119th-congress/house-event/118526?s=3&r=3

Here is the entire vote and all surrounding context. The supposed “lie” about the vote count is apparently made up for engagement bait by whatever anonymous jaggoff still trolls x on their call to activism account

https://youtu.be/M-Kz6P9nDf0?t=12600

okay then explain it all and make it look easy you got it figured so good

Also, I thought about it for another ten seconds and what you’re saying is even dumber than it looks on the surface. You say he had orders to prevent exactly this- no he didn’t this was a surprise move from the democrats and his position does not afford him any power to “prevent this” and there was an internal schism within the republicans, so wrong on at least three counts. You say he got marching orders- where in the video did you get that from? Are you privvy to their private marching orders? Are you sure you didn’t just make that up in your head as the thing most likely to go along with what you already believed going into it, what you were primed to believe by the BIG SHOCKING SLAM HEADLINE? You say it wasn’t a joke- how do you explain the fucking laughter coming from the people whose votes he supposedly tried to snub? It was a lighthearted moment complete with a natural beat for comedic effect. You can tell he was being flippant by his particular choice use of the singular noun “no” and the singular conjugation “has” that he intended to draw attention to his surprise and dissapointment that one is in fact less than almost a dozen for comedic effect, which it fucking achieved. Surprise and pretended incongruity with reality are notorious sources for humor. At no point did he actually impede the vote.

There are kiddie diddlers, and the people protecting them. They are in office. It is real, it is a conspiracy, and no not everyfuckingthing the light touches belongs to the pedophiles. This guy is just doing his job. He didn’t say “In my opinion the no has it [over the obvious chorus of yes]” for attention, you’re right that doesn’t make sense.

No, he was lying and trying to get away with it. If he wanted to count the votes, he would have done what every committee chair has done for (in my understanding) 200+ years, and call for a roll call vote. He wouldn’t lie in the face of an 8-2 vote.

this is how i shoulda known for a fact before even starting typing all that shit that you didnt watch the shit, dont know how a parliamentary procedure works, dont know what you’re talking about. You don’t count the votes individually unless it’s called for. You start by listening to how loud the ayes and nays are, making a call, and then when someone, anyone, not just the chair challenges it, then you go to individual roll call. There’s some fuckery you can get up to with this system but this aint it. The system is set up to prevent precisely this kind of lie being baselessly alleged from being possibe to be told. The system worked in this case. You should stop assuming your american public school education prepared you to “understand” this shit cuz its not a 200 year history, this goes back to olde england and arguably ancient greece and by your understanding this is apparently your first time examining this in any detail.

With all that fucking confidence and outrage too. “Are you suggesting-” Take a breath. You’d uncritically go along with literally just any half-baked not-even-tabloid story if it flattered your existing beliefs or confirmed your predetermined narrative. God help any accused who find you on their jury.