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  • AA5B@lemmy.worldtoFuck Cars@lemmy.worldElectric Cars
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    11 hours ago

    Someone from the US will always chime in about how we’re different, bigger, more spread out, but that’s BS.

    • We also have 80% of our population in urban or suburban areas that could be designed for effective transit use.
    • Most of our travel is between near-ish cities that could be effectively served by intercity rail.
    • Many of our worst traffic jams are beyond the possibility of fixing by adding more lanes.
    • Most of our air congestion is thousands of regional flights that could be served by rail

    We have a fantastic interstate highway system, amazing air travel facilities, but we’ve not spent enough time or money on other possibilities. We emphasized people’s privacy on their own lot at the expense of being unable to walk anywhere










  • Even that’s not fair since efficiency isn’t the same thing as road usage. And one of the reasons gas taxes cover so little of the cost of roads is efficiency improvements over the last few decades.

    Even before you take EVs into account, taxing by weight and mileage is more fair.

    Then when you do take EVs into account, how do you adjust for usage, for road damage, and for your choice of vehicles? Is it fair to charge the same for a monstrous Hummer EV as for a Peugeot city car? Is it fair to pay the same for your Tesla driving 10k/year as for an ICE BMW of the same weight driving 30k/year? Taxing by weight and mileage is more fair for everyone








  • I doubt it. I see the same thing in ai search results but on reading it, it actually says EV weight not posted and it estimates 1,500 pounds.

    I tried looking up the vehicle and sure enough, weight not listed.

    But the reason I doubt that estimate is a Tesla battery weighs about 1,200 pounds depending on model, and EVs typically save some of that weight from the engine and transmission.

    I know an Equinox EV isn’t very efficient but I have a hard time believing that it adds more weight than an entire Tesla battery pack, saving nothing by removing engine and transmission …. Unless it’s not at all the same vehicle


  • No, this is BS. Type of vehicle matters much more than whether it’s an EV or not. My EV is lighter than the thousands of pickups I see every day so it’s unreasonable to make the argument that EVs are heavier.

    Plus it’s specious to argue how much more damage an EV does to the road at something like +20% weight when trucks cause thousands of times the damage. Unless that EV is adding 40 tons, it’s effectively the same as any other car: orders of magnitude more than bicycles and orders of magnitude less than trucks

    Just go by weight. It doesn’t matter where that weight is from or what technology makes up that weight