• REDACTED@infosec.pub
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        I got called a fascist for saying genocide against Jews is just as bad as genocide against Palestinians. Apparently it’s fascist now to be against fascist things

        EDIT: For proof, see downvotes on this comment. I genuinely can’t tell you which platform is more unhinged, this or reddit. Both are special places for special people

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    True, but it also reminds us what happens when someone on Lemmy gets downvoted, reported and banned for having their own valud standpoint, which is not accepted by the majority of us.

    We should keep in mind that we are prone to making the same mistake.

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      Happened to a ton of trans people on .blahaj

      The 196 community didn’t like the rule that forced them to repsect a troll that was using the gender “dragonfucker” to mock and invalidate real gender identities and sexualities.

      Instead of banning a single troll they banned dozens of users off the most popular community on blahaj and triggered the community to make a 196 community on .world

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        I am still convinced ‘Drag’ legitimately has dissociative identity disorder and isn’t a troll in the sense of … ‘i am in full control of my faculties and choose to act as caricature to sew sow chaos’…

        But yeah, that whole… thing… was fucking bonkers.

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      I visit .ml and while I do occasionally get cross threaded with them they are, overall, not terrible. Yes some of the people associated with their instance can be over the top but by and large they are just people with a different viewpoint.

      I tried to do the same with hexbear but ultimately couldn’t, which may be my problem more than theirs.

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        I’m fairly left on the political spectrum, probably further than most, but hexbear and a lot of .ml are left to the max, as in they’re tankies. I can’t stand right-wingers much, but tankies are worse by a large margin.

        Shit, they attempted to harass and dox me when I offered an opinion that didn’t agree with their very rigid worldview. I kept poking at their stubbornness then they banned me. I’m a stubborn SOAB myself.

        Now I’m questioning if I should continue to use this platform. I’ve definitely started using it less since then, knowing that this platform is run by tankies.

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        Well I’ve never been harassed, doxxed, and threatened to be murdered by racists or pedophiles simply because I disagree with them. Only tankies and fascists would do that.

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          You haven’t ever been doxxed period, and racists have harassed killed and doxxed even for minor shit, unless your definition of fascist is very liberal

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            Sure it was an attempted doxxing because they’re incompetent. I’m well aware of the evils on the internet and do a decent job remaining anonymous.

            Tankies have killed as many people as the Nazis, actually more. Much more deaths attributed to tankies than racists could ever dream to commit.

            Why are you defending tankies?

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              Tankies have killed as many people as the Nazis, actually more.

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    In my limited experience with Lemmy I would say the problem here is worse, but different due to the whole instance and decentralized thing.

    I definitely don’t think Lemmy has much ground to stand on in terms of looking down on reddit for the echo chamber they created.

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      The whole image seems made to be satirical. We’re all in our own bubbles so for anyone to judge another person for the same thing is a wild take.

      I don’t mind being in a bubble here cause it is safe and nice to be among like-minded people, but at least I am aware I am in a bubble.

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        Most of the people I’ve seen on Lemmy do not react particularly well whenever the conversation of it being an echo chamber or a bubble comes up. I would say that most are either blind to it are in denial about it at the very least.

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        Unfortunately no lol. Lemmy has a handful of stances that are “allowed” and if you stray from those you’re toast.

        You can get banned from entire instances just because the mod of that instance saw you make a comment they didn’t like on a completely different instance and sub.

        It’s fine though. Each instance can do whatever they want. I do think it inhibits growth and actual discussions from taking place though. If you ban everyone that thinks even slightly differently than you it just means you’re left with a bunch of people that all pretty much agree I everything. Not exactly a riveting conversation.

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          Not just bans. People in the Fediverse are knee jerk blockers too. Disagree with me? Blocked. Wow, now everyone agrees with me, so my take must be correct.

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            Yeah … I mean everyone is allowed to Taylor their experience however they want but I never block people because I never want to put myself into an echo chamber where I only ever see or hear opinions I already agree with.

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              good for you I want an echo chamber, listening to stupid mfs opinions for the last 10 years has done me no favors, the type of mf that I dont want to talk to is the one who refuses growth and doesnt change their mind off new information, instead they double down on their beliefs because of whatever stupid reason

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                See the difference between us is that because I never block anyone I might hear or see a perspective or idea I’ve never considered before and I might take stock of my current position and change. Whereas with your method you are cutting off that chance and then just locking in on your current stances assuming they are currently correct and will always be correct forever which I find to be an idiotic stance to have.

                I can admit that all of my positions might not be perfect because I still haven’t thought about every single thing or learned every single thing there is to learn. It is illogical to assume that I already know everything and no longer need to consider anything else.

                I don’t know about you but my political stances have changed over the years. Certain from a young kid to my teen years. And again from my teens to my young adult years. And yet again as I have gotten older. I am sure they will continue to shift and grow as I grow as a a person.

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                  I research my opinions, I dont base them off conversations with strangers on the internet who all have their own agendas. Republicans are not changing their minds and arent open to new opinions unless the source is one of their own and even then theyll turn on them it its too far from what they know.

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        🤣 that’s the most mild misogyny I’ve ever heard. If that’s all it takes to get banned from an entire instance you guys are fucked in the future. I can’t believe I’ve not seen this pettiness before. This whole project is a joke. Death threats are a ok, but mild misogyny gets you banned? You all are warped in the head it that’s how you feel.

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          Yeah that whole situation was stupid.

          I still cannot believe they legitimately think multiple death threats (even if they were ridiculous) aren’t as bad as my original “misogynistic” comment.

          Most of the mods on Lemmy are a joke and a good majority of the users themselves are lost. It’s whatever.

          Our only hope is that more users with varying options join over time and they simply get overwhelmed by people having normal ass opinions.

          Or they double down and start banning people even sooner.

          Only time will tell if Lemmy grows or they will drive into a slow death.

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              Isn’t that why most people are here at this point? I know the original Exodus started with the whole API thing but I think Lemmy is majority ex-reddit users who got banned in the last year or so. My ban came outta nowhere and they didn’t even tell me what rule I broke. When I appealed asking what rule I had broken they instantly denied it without clarifying what rule I had supposedly broken. I had been banned from a handful of random subs over the years for various stupid things but I had never ticked off any admin or anything. I’m not the only person who had an account with hundreds of thousands of karma that was almost as old as the site just randomly get thanos snapped either.