Seems like you are describing narcissists. It can be particularly infuriating or agonizing if they target you, and only you get exposed to their dark side.
I know many people like this
Unironically no.
All the fakest people I’ve ever met were deeply unlikable because they couldn’t hide how awful they were.
Yes… real life narcissistics. they are people with 0 empathy and 0 feelings when they hurt others but can’t live without validation. some have endured trauma and are so resented towards people, that they see in every person a human tool. Don’t be fooled and don’t compare yourself to them if we are talking about the same kind of people. I’ve lived with 2 them and deep down they are extremely unhappy.
I read through your other threads and wanted to say something.
There’s been people I’ve known in real life who I’d perceived as being terrible. Most of the time I’ve found this perception to be wrong. Particularly when I was younger, I would often assume popular and charismatic people were actually fake and shallow. But as I’ve gotten older, I’ve realized that these people are usually popular for a reason. They’re normally confident in themselves and pleasant to others. They treat others amicably. They have friends and talk to others easily. I personally might view their words and actions as superficial, but others don’t. Doesn’t mean they are bad people. It just means that for whatever reason I don’t get along with them.
There are definitely a few popular people I’ve personally known who are scum. Usually I will not be the only one who thinks this. They might seem confident in themselves and pleasant to others, but there are people they ridicule, behind their backs or to their faces. Their confidence is boastful and belies deep insecurities. They reserve their best selves for only certain people. And they are abusive and manipulative. And to a certain extent they know it.
But these are the extremes. Most people are in the middle. Most people view themselves as generally good natured. I’m kind and well-liked by my peers. But there are people who don’t like me simply because our personalities don’t mesh together. There are people I’m kind to and others I’m standoffish with. That’s just how human beings are.
Its the typical charisma of certain psychological conditions. People with no actual empathy can of course play their role with less distractions and dont have to worry if others will suffer because of their lies. Its a cruel game.
Most of American society encourages sociopathic behavior under the guise of calvinist principle
To be fair. Capitalism does that systematically. But the detailed view makes sense as there are people who are exceedingly good at this. Like “naturals” which are really scary people. Thats imo what elmo, jeff and bill are like. They project an image of the father figure but they would nuke the world if it made them more profit.
The average person actually believes in the fake liberalist moral framework that fighting for womens rights for exmaple is good on its own (or any minority) which it isnt. Its just relative to other minorities which makes it hunger games.
But a “natural” (i’ll leave diagnoses out) will have no problem with seeing the cruelty and embracing it. I get goosebumps by thinking about it.
Yeah and it sucks, specially when you’re the one warning people about the awful person, they don’t listen, and you end up being right.
I’m probably that person for a lot of people (except for the attractive part). Definitely not sorry lol. I’m just a normal person, but I’m way too happy to be hated by people who I’m opposed to, and somehow that makes me likeable to people. But I’m pretty sure some of the people I pissed off along the way see me as a conniving manipulative agitator.
My previously favorite influencer was exposed for harassing women, including one minor. He went to a psych yard for a couple of months under the guise of the distress it caused him, but considering that when he came back he posted a victim blaming apology, I think it was actually BS.
But after that victim blaming apology, everyone seems to have forgiven him, to the point of saying it was all false allegations. Everybody is treating him as the “golden good boy” as before, as if he apologized for something he didn’t do, and blamed women for something that didn’t happen.
I know it is not the exact same situation as the post asks about, but it reminded me of this, and I needed to vent.
doesn’t count, influencers aren’t people
lots of people are like that
I am familiar with plenty of those people.
I’ve never met someone like this as most people can sniff out bad faith actors and they’re identified pretty quickly
In my opinion these people are rare and most perceptions of a person being in a category like this are due to personal bias and the contemporary emphasis on identifying individuals with personality disorders like narcissism and whatever have you. A facet of the cannibalistic true-crime genre
Or maybe I know no one like this because I have yet to get the proper distance to myself
Yes, their bs eventually caughts up to them.
