• finitebanjo@piefed.worldBanned from community
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    12 days ago

    The Oct 7th attack specifically targeted the Nova Music Festival filled with unarmed civilians. All of the adult dead could be called former IDF because service is mandatory in Israel. Like Bernie I realize that the consequences of that event have been disproportionate to the tune of a thousand times in magnitude, but that doesn’t mean either of us have to side with or condone the actions of Hamas, nor would that bring support for our cause of ending this war and recognizing Palestine.

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      The “civilians” partying next to a concentration camp? Again, the majority of them were killed by tank fire and hellfire missiles. Hamas does not have those weapons.

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          12 days ago

          Hamas wanted living hostages. The IDF has confirmed they enacted the Hannibal Directive to kill the potential hostages. Most of the people killed were killed by the IDF’s tank fire and hellfire missiles.

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      An occupying country cannot claim self defense. The terrorist colonizing project of Israel is 100% to blame. If it weren’t for Hamas Palestinians would have no one defending them.

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        You can’t blame Hamas for the genocide, and nobody is, but you also can’t sit there and condone full scale military attacks on music festivals full of civillians.

        Well, clearly you and Surph can, because you’re a horrible person promoting genocide by shaming those who advocate against it as a form of anti-western psyop.

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          Bernie is blaming Hamas for starting this genocide while still preaching the lie that Israel has a right to defend itself. Israel attacked the festival. Anyone claiming otherwise is defending Israeli actions.

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            12 days ago

            Israel is responsible for the genocide, it says that. Hamas is responsible for the war, it says that. Both things are true.

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              11 days ago

              Both things are not true. There would be no Hamas or need for Hamas if Israel wasn’t occupying Palestinian land.

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                11 days ago

                Okay so are you asserting the attack on the Nova Music Festival was justified and Israel should have done nothing at all in response? Is the solution you’re proposing is the death or exodus of every Israelite? Fat fucking chance getting that outcome, pal.

                In my opinion, Hamas are not the good guys, they started this war, and Israel is a horrible place filled with horrible people committing a genocide. I just don’t see any positive outcomes from having any other opinion, I’m incapable of seeing any good come from your pointless inflammatory comments.