That’s not what I said at all. But, if you want to be serious. Even what you’re pointing to is not a simple issue and white supremacists do use “aid” and “education” as tools to reduce populations of “undesirables”.
It’s about self determination and independence first.
Those who come with wheat, millet, corn or milk, they are not helping us. Those who really want to help us can give us ploughs, tractors, fertilizers, insecticides, watering cans, drills and dams. That is how we would define food aid.
-Thomas Sankara
Western powers rarely have good intentions for their “aid” and is more often than not a tool to keep populations in the third world dependent on and subservient to capital.
But I don’t know why I bother even mentioning that because you don’t sound like the person to have an intelligent conversation with anyway given the conclusion you jumped to from my comment.
But I don’t know why I bother even mentioning that because you don’t sound like the person to have an intelligent conversation with anyway given the conclusion you jumped to from my comment.
That was the tongue-in-cheek point of my comment about you jumping to conclusions about the previous comment. They said that they don’t think more people on the planet is beneficial, and you went straight to calling people them an eco-nazi without bothering to understand what they meant.
I can’t tell which is worse; your reading comprehension or the irony of you saying I’m the one jumping to conclusions.
Maybe reread the initial comment I made. I asked for clarification on what they meant because I DIDN’T jump to conclusions. Then I clarified why I was asking because that language around “population” is often used by white supremacists.
I never accused that comment of such things and they followed it up with a clarification. We had an adult conversation and didn’t make a childish comment like you did.
Maybe go read it. Because it seems like you might need an example of how to actually communicate with people around sensitive subjects without just straw manning what someone is asking and saying.
You can misunderstand my comment. That’s fine. That can happen. But you’re doubling down on your misunderstanding now and pretending that that’s what I “secretly” meant. You are being childish.
I can’t tell which is worse; your reading comprehension or the irony of you saying I’m the one jumping to conclusions
Oh shit I’m sorry, this wasn’t you?
Population control is not a solution. There is no way in which that doesn’t involve Nazi level eugenics shit given our current world powers.
OH WAIT.
The real rich thing is you saying “I don’t want to jump to conclusions” and then the next two sentences are “You must be talking about population control and Nazi eugenics shit”.
Does this type of conversation not exhaust you? Like, clearly I clarified that I had no intention to target the commenter in my initial comment. Can that not just be a misunderstanding on your part or a clarity problem in the comment on my part?
Like, you’ve had the purpose of the comment clarified to you. The point was to explain why I was concerned with the language.
And now you’re here taking screenshots and highlighting something I am not denying I wrote. I am explaining to you the intention behind the word I wrote.
Ironically, not offering me the same charity I offered to the initial comment when I ask for them to clarify what they meant. You could have been an adult and done that. But here we are.
I swear “debate lord” culture has rotten the brains of a generation. This isn’t a YouTube click bait video my friend.
There is no audience for our conversation even. No one would bother reading this deep besides you and me.
You are allowed to say your initial response was in bad faith (it was) and I’m allowed to say that I should have made my initial comment more clear (it could have been better).
But at this point you’re talking to one person (me) and trying to convince them they meant something they didn’t. That sounds exhausting. I know what I meant and what the intention of my comment was. I was the one who wrote it.
Not really much of a conversation TBH. Just try to avoid associating peope with Nazis or Eco-Fascists before you try to understand what they are saying. I did see your split off thread, and I’m glad there was a more measured and serious tone in there…
You could have just left it at your first paragraph and left out your incomplete opinions about how the only solution is population control through eugenics. I thought it was a funny interaction, boiled it down to its core concepts, threw in a dash of all caps no spaces and it blew up.
That’s not what I said at all. But, if you want to be serious. Even what you’re pointing to is not a simple issue and white supremacists do use “aid” and “education” as tools to reduce populations of “undesirables”.
It’s about self determination and independence first.
-Thomas Sankara
Western powers rarely have good intentions for their “aid” and is more often than not a tool to keep populations in the third world dependent on and subservient to capital.
But I don’t know why I bother even mentioning that because you don’t sound like the person to have an intelligent conversation with anyway given the conclusion you jumped to from my comment.
That was the tongue-in-cheek point of my comment about you jumping to conclusions about the previous comment. They said that they don’t think more people on the planet is beneficial, and you went straight to calling people them an eco-nazi without bothering to understand what they meant.
Woosh.
I can’t tell which is worse; your reading comprehension or the irony of you saying I’m the one jumping to conclusions.
Maybe reread the initial comment I made. I asked for clarification on what they meant because I DIDN’T jump to conclusions. Then I clarified why I was asking because that language around “population” is often used by white supremacists.
I never accused that comment of such things and they followed it up with a clarification. We had an adult conversation and didn’t make a childish comment like you did.
Maybe go read it. Because it seems like you might need an example of how to actually communicate with people around sensitive subjects without just straw manning what someone is asking and saying.
You can misunderstand my comment. That’s fine. That can happen. But you’re doubling down on your misunderstanding now and pretending that that’s what I “secretly” meant. You are being childish.
Oh shit I’m sorry, this wasn’t you?
OH WAIT.
The real rich thing is you saying “I don’t want to jump to conclusions” and then the next two sentences are “You must be talking about population control and Nazi eugenics shit”.
Don’t fuck with me. I’ve got receipts.
Does this type of conversation not exhaust you? Like, clearly I clarified that I had no intention to target the commenter in my initial comment. Can that not just be a misunderstanding on your part or a clarity problem in the comment on my part?
Like, you’ve had the purpose of the comment clarified to you. The point was to explain why I was concerned with the language.
And now you’re here taking screenshots and highlighting something I am not denying I wrote. I am explaining to you the intention behind the word I wrote.
Ironically, not offering me the same charity I offered to the initial comment when I ask for them to clarify what they meant. You could have been an adult and done that. But here we are.
I swear “debate lord” culture has rotten the brains of a generation. This isn’t a YouTube click bait video my friend.
There is no audience for our conversation even. No one would bother reading this deep besides you and me.
You are allowed to say your initial response was in bad faith (it was) and I’m allowed to say that I should have made my initial comment more clear (it could have been better).
But at this point you’re talking to one person (me) and trying to convince them they meant something they didn’t. That sounds exhausting. I know what I meant and what the intention of my comment was. I was the one who wrote it.
Not really much of a conversation TBH. Just try to avoid associating peope with Nazis or Eco-Fascists before you try to understand what they are saying. I did see your split off thread, and I’m glad there was a more measured and serious tone in there…
You could have just left it at your first paragraph and left out your incomplete opinions about how the only solution is population control through eugenics. I thought it was a funny interaction, boiled it down to its core concepts, threw in a dash of all caps no spaces and it blew up.