You don’t so much get something in return for taxation as you already got it. Other people’s taxes created the conditions for your income and now part of your income goes to creating the conditions for other people to generate value and income. It’s a raw deal if you have a very high income and you only get infrastructure and healthcare back but realise that the whole foundation of your wealth, safety, and happiness comes from other people’s taxes and then hopefully it is okay to pay taxes to give those things to other people. Additionally, this is capitalism so if you have a lot of income it’s because other people are generating more value than their income. Society (and therefore taxes) is the only thing that can make that tolerable.

I mean, Dad, being a dad, did supply a lot of things to junior: food, shelter, security, etc. And, even though I think the libertarian idea that “taxation is theft” is really stupid, there is a slight point that it’s not a contract you sign or an arrangement you agree to, it’s an requirement forced on you based on where you’re born. If you don’t like those rules, you have to leave the country – and even leaving the country isn’t always something people are allowed to do.

In that, there’s a bit of a similar relationship with your parents. They impose rules on you that you can’t negotiate and can’t refuse. You’re stuck with them until you’re old enough to move out and live on your own.

Anyhow, the whole thing is kinda dumb. At least, that’s what my dog says. Oh, and she’d like for you to describe the smell of your dog’s butt for her, if you wouldn’t mind.

Taxation can basically be theft depending on the situation. Remember that paying taxes is compulsory and not inherently a form of mutual aid.

It’s possible to tex someone against their will and with no benefit offered to them.

Also, taxes aren’t theft. You get something in return for it,

I’m going to give you a candy while I rob you. Police hate this simple trick