Sorry for not replying to this for a while, been busy/distracted.

Basically: Ah, I have misunderstood you somewhat, thank you for the corrections, and well basically I agree completely.

Only possibly thing I could add is that uh… yeah, Ender’s version of ‘against self interest’… is itself potentially genocidal to humanity, it is very extreme, so… yeah that aspect of it is pretty rare in fiction, its usually nowhere near that grand…

So yeah I agree, Ender probably is not the best example of a more ‘normal’ version of that.