Volker Turk urges the UK government to lift the "unnecessary" ban on the group.
  • TWeaK@feddit.ukEnglish
    315·
    6 days ago

    I’m pro-Palestine, but Palestine Action seem pretty dodgy. Between attacking RAF planes (which are most likely used in Ukraine, not Israel) and attacking a manufacturer in Europe that allegedly sells to Israel (destroying equipment bound for Ukraine), the things they do seem to have merely a veil of pro-Palestine while ultimately benefitting Russia. At the very least, I have a real concern that the group has been infiltrated and is influenced by Russia.

    I do think they’ve twisted the law somewhat to find something it fits into, but feel that action absolutely needed to be taken against the group. Mainly though this is because “terrorism” is defined as “using violence (or the threat of violence) against civilians in pursuit of a political goal”. Their actions have been against military, not civilians, and thus cannot be terrorism. But treating them as a military threat would be twisted and presented as an even more inappropriate response, even though that’s what they are.

    Edit: Lmaooooo all the lemmygrad and hexbear users came out the woodwork, right on cue. As soon as you mention something Russia isn’t doing…

    • Redderthanmisty@lemmygrad.ml
      91·
      6 days ago

      Planes which are most likely used in Ukraine, Not Israel.

      PA specifically targeted the Brize Norton RAF base because it was a major transport hub for the RAF for flights between Britain and Cyprus (a common staging ground for British and American air operations over Gaza and the rest of the middle east), with such flights leaving daily.

      attacking a manufacturer in Europe that allegedly sells to Israel (destroying equipment bound for Ukraine)

      PA have been primarily targeting manufacturing plants owned by Elbit systems, an Israeli arms company with a few factories in the UK that produce ammunition and equipment for both the British and Israeli militaries.

      Additionally, most of the equipment bound for Ukraine is largely made up of older military stockpiles which are then backfilled with newer equipment. Breaking a couple of new drones and spraying paint on a factory isn’t going to affect Ukraine’s weapons shipments in the slightest.

      • TWeaK@feddit.ukEnglish
        16·
        6 days ago

        Excuses, pathetic excuses. But nothing that shows Palestine Action to be anything other than a Russian asset. In fact, if anything, your hurried response tells tales.

        • Redderthanmisty@lemmygrad.ml
          4·
          6 days ago

          nothing that shows Palestine Action to be anything other than a Russian asset

          As far as I can see, you haven’t given any evidence yourself showing them to be a russian asset in the first place. You’ve only made unsubstantiated claims.

          if anything, your hurried response tells tales.

          lmao. If anything, your response which avoids making any challenges to evidence I provided, beyond calling them “pathetic excuses”, just makes you look like a hasbara bot.

        • Ram_The_Manparts [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
          3·
          6 days ago

          But nothing that shows Palestine Action to be anything other than a Russian asset.

          You made the claim that PA is a “Russian asset”, the burden of proof is on you. So let’s see what you got to back it up.

          You know that’s how things work, right?