The US loves to give the bad guys things until the rich are personally hurt or until the country can’t ignore the problem anymore. They’d probably still have sold weapons to Hitler if the Japanese weren’t allied with Germany and it was just a US-Japan war.
They’d probably still have sold weapons to Hitler if the Japanese weren’t allied with Germany and it was just a US-Japan war.
“Catch-22” jokes about how American weapons manufactures did in fact continue to provide military aid to both sides of the war even after we’d officially joined on the side of the Allies.
But I think a lot of that was rooted in the fact that FDR inherited a fascist government from Hoover. And it was very difficult to get the anti-Communists to keep sending kickbacks to their favorite White Terror factions all through Europe and East Asia. Hell, its a bit of a miracle that Churchill and FDR were able to align with Stalin or Mao at all. Under different political conditions, it could easily have been a three-way conflict that dragged on straight through the fall of Berlin.
Certainly, more than a few American generals were convinced they should have started dropping bombs straight into Moscow and Beijing. The only thing that really held them up was the exhausted state of the US economy by the time Tokyo surrendered.
even stalin aligned with the nazis when it benefited them
Are you talking about Moltov-Ribbentrop? It’s a weird thing to bring up absent Munich Agreement. Stalin made repeated efforts to reform the triple alliance between '33 and '39, only to be rebuffed by Western states that were Nazi-Curious.
Only after Britian and France had rebuffed the Soviets for six years did he eventually concede to a treaty with Germany.
yeah it’s a pretty straight line of succession from Washington’s founding of the slave empire to the genocidal empires in Europe, the reintegration of the Nazis into the American empire and our present fascist regime
that just seemed a little deep for a 50501 comment where one may have to insist that verbs have meaning in the first place
I mean, from around 1930 to 1940, we spent a lot of time helping Hitler out.
And don’t even get me started on George III. Washington straight up worked for him for half his adult life.
The US loves to give the bad guys things until the rich are personally hurt or until the country can’t ignore the problem anymore. They’d probably still have sold weapons to Hitler if the Japanese weren’t allied with Germany and it was just a US-Japan war.
“Catch-22” jokes about how American weapons manufactures did in fact continue to provide military aid to both sides of the war even after we’d officially joined on the side of the Allies.
But I think a lot of that was rooted in the fact that FDR inherited a fascist government from Hoover. And it was very difficult to get the anti-Communists to keep sending kickbacks to their favorite White Terror factions all through Europe and East Asia. Hell, its a bit of a miracle that Churchill and FDR were able to align with Stalin or Mao at all. Under different political conditions, it could easily have been a three-way conflict that dragged on straight through the fall of Berlin.
Certainly, more than a few American generals were convinced they should have started dropping bombs straight into Moscow and Beijing. The only thing that really held them up was the exhausted state of the US economy by the time Tokyo surrendered.
I mean… even stalin aligned with the nazis when it benefited them. Facism comes in many flavors.
Are you talking about Moltov-Ribbentrop? It’s a weird thing to bring up absent Munich Agreement. Stalin made repeated efforts to reform the triple alliance between '33 and '39, only to be rebuffed by Western states that were Nazi-Curious.
Only after Britian and France had rebuffed the Soviets for six years did he eventually concede to a treaty with Germany.
More like they invaded poland along side germany.
Are you suggesting the Soviets should have allowed the entirety of Poland to fall to the Nazis?
Or do you believe the British and French should have joined the Triple Alliance to defend Poland from Nazi occupation?
Right right… they conquered poland to protect it… just like morden russia is conquering ukraine to protect them from ‘nazis’
Getting strong Neville Chamberlain vibes off this conversation.
Mao didn’t come to power until 1949.
yeah it’s a pretty straight line of succession from Washington’s founding of the slave empire to the genocidal empires in Europe, the reintegration of the Nazis into the American empire and our present fascist regime
that just seemed a little deep for a 50501 comment where one may have to insist that verbs have meaning in the first place
gosh i hope no Prussians are reading this