From Codepink:
- At the ‘No Kings’ rally in Washington DC, one protestor tried to tell us our Palestine flags didn’t belong there. While the US funds genocide and occupation, we will not stop showing up for Palestine.
Source -> https://xcancel.com/codepink/status/1979966336173322366#m
Nah. This is common sense protest stuff. For your message to be clear, and to prevent being spun by the other side, you need a concise message.
Like imagine if at your pro-Palestine protest you also had random people with anti-Trump, anti-tariff, anti-Argentina bailout, pro-union, anti-AI, etc. etc.
Suddenly your protest isn’t a pro-Palestine protest. It’s a partly pro-Palestine, partly economic, anti-Trump protest with labor rights and anti-AI sentiments. The media now gets to choose how they cover it. They will likely say that the group does not have clear goals or will say that if you are pro-Palestine you are necessarily pro those other things too - which may alienate and confuse some of the folks watching at home because the media gets to conflate those things even if they don’t have to go together.
Protests need a clear, unambiguous, concise message.
“No kings” is not even a message. “This is about our US democracy” is not even a message. The US is objectively not, and never has been, a democracy. And the protests don’t have a pro-democracy message. They don’t demand anything. They just want blue-flavored racist in charge.
A pro-palestine message is more pro-democracy than any message going on in this protest. Notice how you don’t explain what this “clear, unambiguous, concise message” is, or even name A message from these protests. Your politics are incoherent.
Protests are best when you whittle down the movements attending to the absolute narrowest band of apolitical brunch enjoyers. Imagine if like literally every progressive cause suddenly linked up and started working towards all each others goals. Yuck.
We want protest movements small
Wouldn’t want to dirty up the ‘democracy’ protest with things people want
the message of the protest being “we want to go back to ignoring the evil our empire does”
“If Kamala was president, we’d be out to brunch by now”
Except there isn’t even a concise message from no kings. What are their demands? Stop being a fashy washy? These liberals at no kings don’t care about minorities. They’re only upset because trump is targeting them now. Look at all civil rights movements in america. The white-women suffragettes gladly accepted black women into their movement but didn’t stand for them once the 19th amendment excluded them. Don’t trust any fucking liberals. They’re all pieces of shit trash. This movement is controlled opposition that’s been disrupting other movements from day one. The first no kings protest was the same day as a PSL-planned Palestine protest that was broadcasted months prior. No Kings is just white people barging into areas that have had progressive rallies for decades, telling everyone they’re doing it wrong, and then take hostage of the rest of the movements. It’s the same way white people tried to have positions of authority with the Black Lives Matter movement. They only care about themselves.
what message? there was no message.
Palestine is the most direct harm Trump has caused though? Seems pretty fitting to protest the genocide he is in charge of at an anti-trurp rally
Shitlib motherfuckers do not understand what the US government and the American corporations are doing to the Palestinians is what they are gonna do to the Americans (and other civilians in the imperial core and periphery as well). That’s why Palestine matters!
the boomerang of abundance
What’s the message? Does a media beholden to capital care if the message is “less diluted”? Have you got evidence that it has lead to leverage against a dictatorship of capital or is it empty idealism? Why would you think being against an ongoing genocide that has been funded and armed by the present and preceding administrations dilute the message, and if so, again, what’s the message?
“Vote blue no matter who” is apparently the message, judging by the level of performative clownery treating a protest as if it was a carnival.
They appear to be upset at the hint of barbarism they may face that they were more than happy to accept (and defend apologism for) when done abroad and “minorities” domestically. They are upset that Trump has pulled off the already very thin veil of supposed civility covering underlying malevolence (that woman was clearly at the very least a liberal zionist; hence the frothing at the mouth).
I saw several signs saying that. “Ride the blue wave” and other such idiocy.
Or they can just lie about it. During 2020, the vast majority of protests were peaceful demonstrations. People still got brutalized by cops and the media still had people believing that these were rioters intending to riot and shit like that.
As far as I can guess/extrapolate, the “no kings” message amounts to “we don’t want the president to rule by decree (executive order)”, but in practice, is popular basically because of people not liking Trump. There are plenty of good reasons not to like the guy, but like… they could emphasize one other than the style of rule, like the fact that he is continuing to fund and enable a genocide? I don’t believe people dislike him purely because of the style of rule. If his decrees were that everyone gets free food, healthcare, and education, and the US pulls out of all wars and international interference, I imagine a lot of people would find it very easy to look past his narcissism and his “king-like” style of ruling.
But he is not doing anything resembling that. He is doing mask off imperialist policies and mask off white supremacist policies, and is turning empire inward on its own people. “No kings” is a functionally illiterate slogan for countering that. “No empire” would be more of a direct opposition to policy and one that goes beyond a single president/individual, but I don’t know if the organizers even comprehend the US as an empire in the first place, much less want to oppose it as being one.
half of the folks at home:
How do I reach the other half with no lack of confusion to believe in “Death to America”.
Fortunately, there are incredible people that are also politically active out there like this person. She wore a “Hands off Venezuela” shirt in the No kings rally.
At this dire moment, Latin America needs all of the solidarity that could get.
Agreed! I don’t deny or discredit anyone who does go out and protest. At the same time, the protest itself really is nothing more than another symbolic march that was a relief valve for libshits.
As everyone else said though, it’s a great way to recruit/organize with others. I was unable to attend as I had work that day, but I went to the last one. Before I went to work though I helped two of my comrades make signs and lent them two of my skating helmets! (don’t skate as much anymore lol)
How’s that working out, btw?
I realise now that I should’ve been harsher fuck your democracy fuck your rights they are predicated on the slaughter of brown people you should consider yourself lucky to not be in the same position
pretty much how I feel about all these horrible libshits. I don’t want to see anyone crushed under the violence of the system, but I am not exactly going to feel sorry for white imperialist libshits when it inevitably comes for them. Instead, I’ll feel sorry for their family and loved ones.
who cares about the media go there to hand out literature and talk to people face-to-face. it’s not like no kings even with a concise message will achieve anything.
Do me a favor and never cook again.
health inspectors be like
Lol you’re losing
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